I always thought of the .308s and .311s as the top of the small bores and the 8mm(.318s and .323s) as the baby mediums. Good thing nobody makes high-powered rifles in .38 and .39 calibers.....or do they?

I guess it is all relitive to where you start at. A 100 years ago anything under 40 cal was small ect. But really a 200 to 220 gr 30 cal and a 210 to 250 gr 338 at the same vel. What ever you shot with them wouldn't be able to tell the differants.

Leo, depends upon geography. In Africa the .30 is a smallbore, and some even put the .338's in the smallbore category, starting the mediums at .375. But here, we do indeed consider the .30's mediums, or even large.

I agree, 30 cal and under are small bore in my book, and 8mm to 375 is a medium. That said, Saeed decided to go .270 to 9.3mm in the this forum, and 6.5mm on down in the small bores. Since Saeed and I share a firm standing on not sensoring, or putting posts in the "proper" forum, post where you wish and enjoy.

The reason this forum was started was to fill the gap between the small and big bore boards, and have a place for the folks asking about 300 ultra mags on the small bore board, and those asking about 338's on the big bore board.

To me, it really doesn't matter where you post your questions. You will likely get slightle different responses from the two boards, as not everyone looks through all the boards.

I consider "medium" 8mm to .375"... not .308".

I think it would depend on where you hunt. In North America deer are about medium. Really big game are moose and big bears. Although most of us likely hunt all "big game" with 30 cal or smaller, it makes sense to place medium calibre in the same range as medium game.

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Originally posted by sunrise:
I think it would depend on where you hunt. In North America deer are about medium. Really big game are moose and big bears. Although most of us likely hunt all "big game" with 30 cal or smaller, it makes sense to place medium calibre in the same range as medium game.

you really searched for that one, Sunrise. roger

What do you call the 338 Caliber Is it in with the medium bores Or is it a big bore.

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Originally posted by jro45:
What do you call the 338 Caliber Is it in with the medium bores Or is it a big bore.

Medium bore.

For me it boils down to, perspective:

Are we ranking bores in their physical size alone? Or

Are we ranking bores in the type of game that they are commonly used for? Or

Is it some combination of both? Either way...

Notwithstanding, Elk killed with 243's and Prairie Dogs with 338's, putting the 30-30 in the Medium Bore category seems fitting given it's history.

M

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Originally posted:
Notwithstanding Elk killed with 243's, and Prairie Dogs with 338's, putting the 30-30 in the Medium Bore category seems fitting given it's history.

M

It certainly makes as much sense to me as putting.44-40' M92s in the same class with Jeffery's .500 Nitros as "large bores".


If we are going to do it just by bore size (which is fine with me), I consider mediums as starting above .311", and ending with the .423"s.

Really, though, I think we'd be better served with modern velocities and bullets, by running "medium" from anything OVER .288" to include anything in the .358" bracket, then go to "large-medium" as .360" up to .431", and "large" as anything over that. In such a scheme, I'd see .230" and up to .287" as small bores, and anything under 230" as a "miniature".

But, this is Saeed's site, not mine, and I am perfectly happy with the way he has it. I can still find my way to the cartridges that I want to talk and learn about. I just appreciate being able to come here, and don't wish to look a gift horse in the mouth.

are 38Cs big boobs or do they start at 36Ds...

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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
are 38Cs big boobs or do they start at 36Ds...

Mike, isn't anything over a mouthful a waste?

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:

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Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
are 38Cs big boobs or do they start at 36Ds...

Mike, isn't anything over a mouthful a waste?

Maybe yes, Maybe no. roger

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Mike, isn't anything over a mouthful a waste?

Only if you lack creativity.

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Originally posted by tendrams:

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Originally posted by Alberta Canuck:
Mike, isn't anything over a mouthful a waste?

Only if you lack creativity.

Perhaps, perhaps not. Never had any complaints yet. Maybe in the next 75 years that will change.

Anyway, I personally prefer about 34-Bs on a well maintained body with good muscle tone...

It would seem that the Sunrise person dug up a 7 1/2 year-old thread.

What was old is now new again.

If we don't read history, we're doomed to repeat it.

Some of my really good books I save, wait several years, and read them again.

C'est la vie

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Originally posted by Winchester 69:
It would seem that the Sunrise person dug up a 7 1/2 year-old thread.

That's OK. I think Mike modernized it from "medium bore/big bore" to medium "boobs"/big "boobs"

Nothing quite like a 7 and a half year old thread .

Ken....

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The 30 caliber is medium bore. Where does the small bore stop at? The 375 is a big or a medium
bore?

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Originally posted by jro45:
The 30 caliber is medium bore. Where does the small bore stop at? The 375 is a big or a medium
bore?

Seems to me you can always argue for one more fraction of an inch at the edges. My old girlfriend did, but that's for Walter's Miscellaneous topics. Setting the middle of the middle range for the calibres used on middle game makes lots of sense. So does measuring small, medium and large on diameter alone instead of some fancy equation arriving at muzzle energy at 73.5 yards upwind.

Seven years? Guess I gotta catch up.