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Hunting with the 8mm Lebel
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Has anyone hunted medium game with a rifle in 8 mm Lebel? I have a Berthier, and an 86/93 Lebel coming. I can't for the life of me think of a good reason why a 236-grain softpointed jacketed .323 bullet at about 2300 wouldn't do a number on good-sized game, but I cannot recall hearing of anyone hunting with the Lebel.

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And where, pray tell, does one get 236-grain softpointed jacketed .323 bullets, these days?? This was a superb 8mm bullet, now, alas, gone the way of the Passenger Pidgeon and the Do-Do bird!! [Confused] [Confused]
 
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The 8m Lebel was used in French Equatorial Africa extensively, on big game as well. Harald Wolf had an article on French African hunters in his "Hatari Times" some time ago.

The Indian civilian hunters presently use the .315, which is much akin to the 8 x 50 R Steyr and a bit less to the 8 x 50 R Lebel. A long very heavy round nose bullet, good medicine.

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Eldeguello: I make the 236-grain flat-point bullets. Need a few?
 
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The 8m Lebel was used in French Equatorial Africa extensively, on big game as well. Harald Wolf had an article on French African hunters in his "Hatari Times" some time ago.

The Indian civilian hunters presently use the .315, which is much akin to the 8 x 50 R Steyr and a bit less to the 8 x 50 R Lebel. A long very heavy round nose bullet, good medicine.

Carcano

Hello Carcano,

Were you able to get a .315 IOF for your cartridge collection? Looks like the round may not have much of a life left since our Supreme Court threw the caliber restrictions that have been in place since 1986. Already, the Indian Ordnance Factories have started making riflews in .303 and .30-06. They import Sellier and Bellot ammunition, but their own ammunition should also follow.

Good shooting!
 
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My late dad hunted with a sporterized 8mm Lebel before WW11 and got a few deer with it. It was a Remington and had the three shot clips. Remington made soft point ammo for it and I recall a 170 gr bullet at just at about 308 Win power.

The action is of the Mannlicher style with the bolt handle going thru the top of the spilt rear bridge. In other words forget a scope.

The Remington rifle did have good workmanship and the cartridge is historic as it was the first smokeless round and it shot a spitzer, boatail monolitic bullet.
 
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Bill,

Bet for sure that you will be the only guy in the neighborhood shooting one of those this season. If you are in the bullet making business locally here in Southern Oregon, where is your shop or where do you operate out of?

Would be interesting to see what you have. Live over in Grants Pass.
 
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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by carcano91:<br /><strong>The 8m Lebel was used in French Equatorial Africa extensively, on big game as well. Harald Wolf had an article on French African hunters in his "Hatari Times" some time ago.<br /><br />The Indian civilian hunters presently use the .315, which is much akin to the 8 x 50 R Steyr and a bit less to the 8 x 50 R Lebel. A long very heavy round nose bullet, good medicine.<br /><br />Carcano</strong></font>
</blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hello Carcano,<br /><br />Were you able to get a .315 IOF for your cartridge collection? Looks like the round may not have much of a life left since our Supreme Court threw the caliber restrictions that have been in place since 1986. Already, the Indian Ordnance Factories have started making riflews in .303 and .30-06. They import Sellier and Bellot ammunition, but their own ammunition should also follow.<br /><br />Good shooting!

Can you to give me give them of the new cartridge 315 IOF
Of which case I can make it is these dimensions
Mercie
 
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I haven't hunted with an 8mm lebel but I have seen the evidence of someone who has.

I was in the French Alps with Montero in 2004 hunting Chamois. Montero was glassing a buck decinding whether to shoot it. I put up my telescope on a rocky outcrop and heard a tinkling noise. Hidden away under the heather was a 1921 8mm lebel fired case. A great find - some 70years previously a hunter must have looked at a chamois buck on exactly the same place as this buck was and decided to shoot (no doubt with iron sights) made me feel quite strange. I hope someone finds my 6.5x57R case in 70years time.
 
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There was a frenchman, Lefebre or something like that who hunted elephant with a Lebel and military ammo. He shot near a thousand if I remember right in French equateral africa. That would make him the equell, or better then Bell who did most of his shooting in the open country.
 
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Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
Has anyone hunted medium game with a rifle in 8 mm Lebel? I have a Berthier, and an 86/93 Lebel coming. I can't for the life of me think of a good reason why a 236-grain softpointed jacketed .323 bullet at about 2300 wouldn't do a number on good-sized game, but I cannot recall hearing of anyone hunting with the Lebel.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 07-17-2003, 10:50: Message edited by: Bill/Oregon ]</small>


I'm sure it will work. But as someone on this board is fond of saying, "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun." These FROG contraptions are even uglier than the Moisin-Nagant, Carcano, or Arisaka!


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That 8mm Lebel that my late dad sporterized sure was ugly. When he got his JC Higgins M51 I was gun trading by then and I sold his gun. Before that he had got it new for only a few bucks. Life was a lot different during the depression. I asked my dad if he had a job then. He said that he had three jobs. He was a toolmaker at Arrow Hart and Hegeman, a maker of switches, unloaded coal from gondolas at night with a friend a few nights a week and repaired and painted junk cars on weekends as a business.

Now somebody was buying Parkers and Winchesters but not everybody.


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