Alberta Canuck
I have 2 short bbld 375 H&H's. One a Sako 20" "Handy Rifle" , and the other a Blaser R-93 with the 19 3/4" Tracker BBl. Both are very handy. Some where I have chrone info on the 375 and 338 shot in the Short [20"] SAKO's. They did not loose that much velocity.

For the record, I'm not against a 20" bbl.
What I'm trying to say is that despite it's merits, hte market won't support it. That's not always a matter of what works, you know, but of what folks think they need.
If it happened that they were able to say something like "matches original H&H loads" then they might have a chance. But even then, I have my doubts.

Yeh, I figured that was probably what you meant. And you may well be right. A real shame, isn't it? Flash always seems to win over substance these days. (Maybe in the "good old days" too, on reflection.)

AC

Sound like nice rifles to me.

I used to have a pre-war M70 .375 H&H that was on its 3rd 19" barrel...it used the first two up in Alaska (one was the cut-off original barrel) and the old sourdough that used it for over 30 years never did get "et" by anything he met. It was not only powerful enough for his needs, but remarkably accurate to boot.

When I sold it, the buyer (Jim King, a professor at a small Oregon university then) and his friends used it for offhand mid-range plinking at "beverage" cans most of the time. The rest of the time they did some serious Roosevelt & Rocky Mountain elk hunting with it.

Best wishes,

AC

How about taking the 376 Styer case shortning to 2.1" chambering it in a 336 Marlin 30/30 ( rim diameter .506). You have a 38-56 rimless improved . In a 6 pound package .If I had the money I would build one tomorrow .

Alberta--that 19" 375 M70 sounds awesome to me!

Personally, I feel that the shorter tube on the prospective 375 WSM would be the way to go--I like the 21" # weight Schneider on my 338 WSM.

However, the problem is that the most of the public is truly unaware of the true useful differences in speeds out of the various tube lengths.

I spend some time working in a gun shop here in Bozeman and you'd be amazed about how many people come in and want this or that gun in this or that tube length. I hear it about every day--do you have such and such a caliber in a 26" tube--nope we don't, but we do have it in a 24"--well they just screetch and go on and on about all the speed they'd lose if you used a tube that short and how useless that gun now is. It would be no good for long range shooting and so on-I always ask them what kind of range finder they use being as they are interested in long range shooting and most of the time they say they don't need one-they can judge range just fine without one. Little do they actually know how little speed you loose per in lost and how little it really matters that speed lose means in the true world of hunting!!!!

Just my thoughts---personally I feel for the informed and intuned shooters out there in the world that a 21" 375 WSM would be an awesome gun!

"GET TO THE HILL"

Dogz

While we're on the subject, I took my 308-338 Lapua x 2 1/3" case and simulated a .375 neck up. (That's 3.08" COL).

Case capacity is ~110g vs ~103g for the 375 Whetherby! (Same length neck, so this is a meaningful comparison.)

Should get 270g/2850fps or 300g/2700fps <52k CUP out of a 20" bbl. Four more inches of barrel get you 2950 (!) and 2750, respectively. IOW, more than necessary.

Not saying there won't be some muzzle blast to go along with that....



[The .416" version with a 20"/24" bbl and 370g should do 2550/2650 at 50k CUP!]