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My nephew just bought a Tika in it. He is looking for a favorite load with 150 Nosler Partitions for elk. I have no experience with the short mag family. Anyone load for the 270 version?
 
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Not a very popular cartridge it seems.
 
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I used a270 WSM on dall sheep and mountain caribou, shooting 130 grain accu bond. I don’t recall the load but it as very effective. I’m mostly a Bowhunter, but think that’s a great cartridge.
Each gun has it’s own preferred load.
I’d get the bullets and try several loads of several powders and see what yours likes.


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I like the 140 gr Nosler Accubond with MagPro powder, but I reached max way before the book said, so start low and be careful.
 
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I have been working up loads for a Sako in .270 WSM. The load I have used the most is RL-22 with the Nosler 140 gr. partition. I have taken 2 whitetails and 2 aoudad with that load and was totally happy. I have experimented a little with the 150 gr. partition and RL-19, RL-22, and H-1000. All three powders worked very well, with a max. load of RL-19 being slightly more accurate than the other two. I have been using loading data from the Nosler manual. I like to use loading data from the company who makes the bullets whenever possible. Nosler loading data are available online if you don't want to buy the book.
 
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From what I have found, Retumbo seems to be a good choice as well. I have it, and most everything in the burn rate range. I also wondered about the 140's, so thanks for the info.
 
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Retumbo worked OK in my rifle and would probably be worth trying in your nephew's rifle. But RL-19 and RL-22 worked best for me. Each rifle is different so the only way you really know is to try it.
 
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I had a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight? in 270 wsm a few years ago. I think the stock didn't fit me well because it is one of the hardest recoiling rifles I've owned. I did take a blackbuck doe with it using the 150gr Ballistic Silvertip ammunition and it was explosive.

The caliber is more than enough to handle elk, especially with the Partition load your nephew is wanting to use


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I've got a Tikka 270 WSM, too, but have not reloaded that particular calibre. Someone told me it was a hard one to load, for some reason. Perhaps he thought the neck was too short.

Whatever, I bet I could never get near the Remington 150-grain AccuTip factory velocity, claimed as 3200fps.
 
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Mag Pro is my go-to powder for the 270 WSM but I have tried some IMR 7977 with decent results.

I've used some 130 Accubond but mostly Barnes TTSX 130's.

I've got an 8 lbs keg of Retumbo but never thought about that in a 270 WSM.

It's a fine cartridge!

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I load alot of 270 WSM mostly 130 and 140 grain Accubonds and Berger VLDs. I have developed some 150s and Retumbo worked just ok. R22 gave much better performance and almost matched the velocity. I have found that R22 is pretty much my go to powder for all things 270 WSM.

I tried R19 and got decent loads with that and R17 was also decent. R22 at least in my rifle gave the best velocity and accuracy in 130 to 150.
 
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My go to culling rifle is a Seko 85 .270 WSM with 140gr Berger VLDs. Both H4831 and Retumbo give me the best accuracy but I get an extra 50 fps or so out of Retumbo.


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My crew of grandsons and I shoot four 270 WSM’s for Deer of both kinds and Elk. All ours are Model 70 Winchester’s, one a stainless with composite stock the others blue with wood sticks in Limited Editions. I can get 3450 fps with a 130 grain North Fork that is a very flat shooter with cloverleaf accuracy. We also shoot 140 grain Barnes TSX, Nosler Ballistic Tips and Accubonds in the 3200 fps range. Our Elk load is 160 grain Nosler Partition with 67.5 grains of Magpro and Fed 210M primers in the 2850 fps range. Our 140 grain bullets get 68 grains RL-25. I alway had great respect for the 270 Win but never owned one. When the WSM version came along I could not resist and it is all my bunch wants to shoot at Deer sized game with an occasional Elk through in when called for. All our rifles will do cloverleaf accuracy when the shooter does his part. Good Shooting.


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It certainly has to be a good caliber, as the .270 WCF is a good elk and deer rifle..Ive seen a number of elk, deer and pronghorn and PG shot with the std 270 and it always performs, Ive used it myself off and on over the years,so the short mag is just a little more of the same..it has to be a fine caliber.


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We also shoot 140 grain Barnes TSX, Nosler Ballistic Tips and Accubonds in the 3200 fps range.

Love the 140 grainers! tu2
 
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It's liked better then I was thinking it might be.
I have all the powders listed above, so I'll do some playing with them. Thankyou for all the info guys.
 
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I agree with Ray's comment. I have no doubt with proper bullets it will perform well. I recently bought a used stainless M70 in 270 WSM. I think a 130'ish grain tipped mono bullet will be my one load for anything I would use a 270 type cartridge on.

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It certainly has to be a good caliber, as the .270 WCF is a good elk and deer rifle..Ive seen a number of elk and PG shot with the std 270 and it always performs, so the short mag is just a little more of the same..
 
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I think it's comparable to my 375 Weatherby (24" barrel). I shoots Weatherby factory 150g Partitions at 3250 fps. Haven't reloaded for it yet, it shoots the factory ammo so damn well and I got it pretty reasonably. If I do load, I'll probably stop at 3150 fps with the 150g Partition.


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270 wsm is the only wsm I see ammo for here in KY and TN. The STW is more available. The 270 wsm load I see in stores is the Winchester Supreme 140 grain Accubond loaf at 3200fps.

I like the 270 wsm on paper. I just bracketed it wit the 270 Win and 7mm STW.

They say the wsm cartridges do not recoil as hard as their belted mag equivalent cousins because of the sorter powder column. I have never shot one to know.
 
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LHeym500,
compared with my 338WM, 9.3x62 etc, I find the short, sharp recoil of the 270 WSM reasonable, even in the light, plastic-stocked Tikka. However, my Kiwi mate who normally shoots a 300 Win mag said my little rifle "kicked like a mule".

Chuck375, have you got a 270 Weatherby mag, by any chance?
 
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I do believe in gun weight to dampen felt recoil.

My STW weighs 9 pounds loaded with good pad and felt recoil is mild. The rifle sure is loud though.

If I were shopping, I prefer the 270wsm to the new 270 Nosler just from a balance stand point. But like I said I do not own a WSM.

I think there is going to be a push by Federal to make the 300 wsm more popular to compete with the 300 PRC. Federal is initial rolling out of there new bonded long range or high BC bullet includes 300 wsm.
 
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I think it's comparable to my 270 Weatherby (24" barrel). I shoots Weatherby factory 150g Partitions at 3250 fps. Haven't reloaded for it yet, it shoots the factory ammo so damn well and I got it pretty reasonably. If I do load, I'll probably stop at 3150 fps with the 150g Partition.


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