I just bought a Remington Sendero in 7 mag and should be receiving it any day now. I know it's an older one because I paid quite a bit less than what the new ones are going for. It does have a 24 inch heavy barrel, no flutes, and was billed as 98%. I've got an inspection period of three days and the first thing I'll do is check the throat for erosion.

My question is this. The new Senderos enjoy an excellent reputation for out-of-the-box accuracy. I don't know if the earlier ones enjoyed that reputation as well. My limited research shows they were first introduced in 1994.

Anyone have any thoughts or experiences with the early Senderos?

Thanks.
Matt

Since its introduction the Remington Sendero has been intended as the most accurate over the counter model that Remington offers.

Buliwyf,

Thnk you. I will really go over the rifle during my inspection period...then relax and enjoy shooting it.

Matt

h4f, The Senderos have always proven themselves pretty good rifles straight from the box. The HS stocks went a long way towards helping with that. You mention that the rifle you bought has a 24" barrel. With only one exception I have ever known(a run of black matte Senderos in 25-06 for the SHOT SHOW back in the nineties) all the other Senderos I've ever seen had 26" barrels. GHD

I have one of the stainless fluted varmit synthetics in 308 win. Absolutely the most accurate gun I own. Also, its taken 123 whitetails, with 122 one shot kills.

Before Rem came out with the Sendero they made a special test run for Hicks they had a matte finish made in only 4 calibers with fluted barrels. I had two of them in 7mag/338mag great shooters.

I have the exact gun you described. Bought it new around 94. It was the first Sendero I laid my eyes on.

It has always been sub minute of angle and I have always been pleased with its dependability. The only small problem is the finish. The slightest bit of moisture will cause it to rust. Not that living in South Louisiana we would ever see rain or humidity.

Thanks all for your comments. GHD I hope the barrel is 26 inches and that it hasn't been altered. I've long been a fan of HS stocks and, if this gun checks out, will soon be researching the particulars of shortening the stock some.

buckeyeshooter, me thinks your record of whitetail kills has more to do with you than the Sendero.

Thanks again.

Matt

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Originally posted by hnts4fun:
Thanks all for your comments. GHD I hope the barrel is 26 inches and that it hasn't been altered. I've long been a fan of HS stocks and, if this gun checks out, will soon be researching the particulars of shortening the stock some.

Thanks again.

Matt

The very early ones were 24" barrels without fluting. I bought this rifle new. The only mod is a Timney trigger.

The Length of pull is 13 5/8" which is pretty short to begin with.

Thanks Mike.

What caliber is your rifle and how well does it shoot.

Matt

My .300 Win Mag SS Sendero shot < MOA out of the box. So far, I only adjusted trigger pull and torque of the stock screws.

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Originally posted by hnts4fun:
Thanks Mike.

What caliber is your rifle and how well does it shoot.

Matt

7MM Rem mag, sub minute of angle. When I shot it often I was able to hit a metal javelina silhouette target at 800 yards consistently with it.

Mike,

That's a fine shooting rifle by anyones's standards. I really liked the gator photos on your website.

Andre, what size objective to you have on your scope, and how high did you have to go on rings?

Matt

I had an early model in 7 Rem mag. It was a great shooter, but I live in a rough country broken by a lot of canyons. It was just too heavy and I got rid of it. The weight really moderated the recoil though. I would like to try one in 338 Ultra because of that, but they don't offer the new ones in it.

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Originally posted by buckeyeshooter:
I have one of the stainless fluted varmit synthetics in 308 win. Absolutely the most accurate gun I own. Also, its taken 123 whitetails, with 122 one shot kills.

That's a hell of a lot of skinning, Buckeye.

I hate to be that guy, but you piqued my curiosity as to what happened with "the one"?

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hnts4run,

Good luck with the Sendero. I've helped a couple of buddies set them up and have been very impressed with their out-of-the-box potential. Outside of some trigger work and cleaning up some high spots around the bedding block, there wasn't much else left to do without spending a whole lot more money for arguably very little gain.

Let us know how it shoots!

back around 97/98' i owned a blued sendero in 300 win mag for a couple years. bought it just for shooting whitetails across soybean fields. very accurate out to 400 yards (my limit) with 180gr ballistic tips and not only killed the deer, but usually knocked them over where they stood. weight was a problem, so i sold it.

Matt,
The scope is a Leupold Vari-X III 3,5-10x50 in std. 1" high QRW rings. . The pic's angle doesn't show clearly there's still 5mm space between bbl. and objective bell. Here's a more detailed closer view :

I have a 270 win sendero. It is a joy to shoot and bumps holes at 100 yards using the 130 Nosler partition bullet. Looking for a 300 weatherby in the sendero. Been a while since I have seen one but I'll find one I like one of these days.

gbanger, I'm really keeping my fingers crossed that this gun is a shooter. This is only the second rifle I've bought online sight unseen. The seller has offered the three-day inspection period and I'm grateful for that. For this particular gun, weight is not an issue so the heavier the better. I have been amazed at what I've learned about Texas through members of this forum. I know we have the mountains and canyons here in Wyoming; but what parts of Texas sport that kind of country, Panhandle?

Kentai, I'm hearing a lot of similar comments so again, I'm hoping this one's a shooter. I'm kind of curious about buckeyeshooter's "one" also but 122 is a heck of a streak.

LBGuy, sounds like a fine shooting rifle that did what you asked of it.

Andre, thank you, I was curious because the scope I'll be using has a 56 mm objective and I ordered superhigh rings. I have some options to get my comb height up but I'm not sure high rings would've given me what I needed... we'll see in a few days.

OkieNewton, my 270 has been my almost constant companion for an awful lot of years. It sounds like your shoots the way we all want ours to. I've never even dropped the hammer on a magnum of any sort, so I'm kind of excited about a heavy rifle and will probably end up putting a brake on it as well.

Hunting season is coming up fast and I'm hoping to be able to get all the pieces and parts together for some elk, deer, and antelope hunting. It may not happen this year but I'm going to give it a shot.

Thanks to everyone for your positive comments. Those are the sorts of things a guy wants to hear after he's already shelled out the cash. I'm sure there'll be a bump or two on the road. But the Sendero certainly sounds like it's been a good platform from the get go.

Matt

gentlemen,
the second shot was required as I was walking up the service trail on a powerline and a nice fat doe jumped up at the edge, ran 10 feet up the hill and looked over her left shoulder at me. I tried to drive a 165 grain sierra gameking from the rear of the left ribcage through the deer and break the right front shoulder. The bullet broke up on the way through and she took off. She went down the powerline, crossed the road, jumped the fence and ran across my aunts hayfield. She was too weak and winded to jump the gate at my cousins hayfield. It allowed me to walk back down the hill, cross the road and put the remington on a fence post. I got her with the second shot at about 300 yards. Got grief from my cousin though--- first time 'death ray'had to speak twice.

Well done!

If it shoots anything like either the one I have in 7 mag, or STW, or my friends 300 RUM, you will not be disappointed. Sight it in and go have fun.

hnts4fun, I live just south of the south east corner of the panhandle.

hnts4fun, no mountains here, and you would probably laugh at our red dirt and white gyprock canyons compared to yours, but there are quite a few that I guarantee you wouldn't want to bail off in! I live just south of the south east corner of the panhandle.

sorry, computer troubles.

The Remington Sendero was introduced around the time when deer hunting was at its peek.The US dollar was very strong and US hunters poured into Canada for trophy deer(and caribou).The long range accuracy craze hit and new riflemakers popped up everywhere offering rifles built around model 700 actions and match barrels.Winchester answered with the coyote?? and Reminton with the Sendero.They are not any more accurate than a ordinary model 700 Bdl or Adl.I would much prefer a Winchester mod 70.With Winchester making rifles today I would not buy a used rifle in those calibers.The larger diameter barrel serves absolutely nothing in a hunting rifle of for those cartridges.Large diameter barrels are for big bores,target practice and competition.

Thank you folks. gbanger, the diversity of terrain and climate in Texas continues to amaze me. I've seen pictures of some big mulies come out of your area.

shootaway, I'm planning on a heavy rifle with a heavy scope for shooting at distance; so this rifle, if sound, may work out after all. Thanks for your input.

Matt

Matt

Outdoor life magazine tested various rifles out to 500yds with factory ammunition.I believe it was in an issue going back 20yrs or so.They had all kinds of custom rifles with heavy barrels and and other rifles in various calibers.One of the best if not the best performer was a regular winchester mod 70 in 270 win.It shot a really small group.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
They are not any more accurate than a ordinary model 700 Bdl or Adl.

You can't be serious. If there weren't a statistically significant difference in mean group size over 10 five shot groups between these two rifles, I would eat my hat.

I am serious.I am referring to the late 700bdl's and not the really old models.I have shot smaller groups with a 700bdl.

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Originally posted by shootaway:
I am serious.I am referring to the late 700bdl's and not the really old models.I have shot smaller groups with a 700bdl.

The thing about a Sendero that may give it the edge over standard tube 700's is the added weight, especially in the magnum calibers. It helps with recoil, it also helps to hold steady as well. With the added aluminum block in the stick they are sitting on a more rigid frame than the standard 700's, and most do not need to be bedded, however some with a skim bed do improve in overall accuracy.

I have some of each and from the get go the Sendero has been easily right from the box a notch up on the ladder above the standard 700 in either ADL or BDL. Yes the actions are the same, but that is where the similarities end.

Mke/Tx I chose the Sendero for exactly the reasons you listed above. I've been reading up on some of the high BC specialty bullets and am hoping, with good optics, this platform might get my toe in the door of some long range shooting at a reasonable cost. Thanks much for your input. It seems to be taking forever, but I should take delivery of the rifle this Wed. If the throat and bore look good...it's off to the races.

Matt

I have a Sendero, a model 7,and a Model 673 all in .300 RSAUM. The 673 is a MOA gun, the mod.7 is a 3/4 MOA gun, the Sendero is a 1/2 MOA gun. This is due to the better stock (A LOT BETTER) on the Sendero. I had to restock the Model 7 to get it to shoot. The guide gun always shot better than I thought it should. The stock and heavier barrel is what makes the Sendero shoot well right "out-of-the box".....Tom

I got to the range today. 75 degrees light breeze and lots of sun. I checked the 308 for deer season. Its ready. This is 46 grains of varget in federal case with winchester large rifle primer and a 165 Sierra gameking.
Range 300 yards, the low left on edge of paper was a fouling shot. the low left next farthest out-- I pulled , whats left is a 10 shot group at 300 yards. Shot from . Just like in my deer stand

Sweet...watch out deer!

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Originally posted by shootaway:
The Remington Sendero was introduced around the time when deer hunting was at its peek.The US dollar was very strong and US hunters poured into Canada for trophy deer(and caribou).The long range accuracy craze hit and new riflemakers popped up everywhere offering rifles built around model 700 actions and match barrels.Winchester answered with the coyote?? and Reminton with the Sendero.They are not any more accurate than a ordinary model 700 Bdl or Adl.I would much prefer a Winchester mod 70.With Winchester making rifles today I would not buy a used rifle in those calibers.The larger diameter barrel serves absolutely nothing in a hunting rifle of for those cartridges.Large diameter barrels are for big bores,target practice and competition.

Nice try. The Sendero came about because of the national success and notariety of Kenny Jarett's "beanfield" rifles. Remington wanted a rifle of similar concept and did a deal with H-S precision for stocks. The name was the brainchild of a South Texas dealer. "Sendero" means trail in spanish. We use it to describe almost any long shooting lane but they are usually associated with pipeline and powerline right-of-ways where you can see as far as your bifocals allow. Remington liked the name and used it. I suppose if Canadian hunting had influenced the name it would be called the "tieur lounge" or "Long shooter".