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Which WSM for deer?
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I'm thinking of buying a Kimber model 8400 rifle and was wondering which cartridge would be best suited for deer (including large deer.) What are the advantages and disadvantages of the various cartridges. I reload, so take that into consideration. The speeds of the same weight bullets are pretty close to the same. I believe the only difference in the cartridges is the diameter of the bullets, so I guess sectional density and the size of entry wounds would be the major differences.

Please, no "Why WSM?" comments. I like the set up of the new Kimber rifles.

Choices:
270 WSM
7mm WSM
300 WSM

 
 
Posts: 336 | Location: Alabama, U.S.A. | Registered: 19 February 2003Reply With Quote
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7mm does all you'd need with a ton of bullets to play with.
The 270 has one of those two, as well.
The 300 has both requirements and even more bullet choices, and more power, but in my view more than a deer hunter needs, and generally more recoil for the same ends. And thise Kimbers are not heavy, as I understand. Though, given your name, you may like that sort of thing, in which case, may I suggest the 325WSM? It also will do all you need.
So, 7mm is my pick, but if you like any of the others, those are good choices, too. The only real differences in them are here, on the forum.
 
Posts: 2000 | Location: Beaverton OR | Registered: 19 December 2002Reply With Quote
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recoil,

The new 8400 Montana in 270 WSM has become my favorite all ranges medium game rifle. It's light, accurate and powerful.

Any of the WSM's will do the same thing on deer. I selected the 270 WSM as I hunt varmints year round and the rifle would do double duty without too much recoil.

I was just loading up some 300 WM ammo for "varmint" hunting. What I am really doing is trying to get myself to sell a heavy M70 Classic in that cartridge. It shoots the 180 Accubond quite well and earned a stay of execution. The thing is that I have a cutesy 300 H&H that's going to stay here no matter what and the Classic is so heavy.

So my thinking is to sell it unless it really shoots this "varmint" load.

This long diversion leads me to what to buy next and another Kimber 8400 Montana seems what I like today. At the moment I might get a 7mm WSM or a 300 WSM as either would do but I am keeping the 270 WSM and am glad it was my first choice.

What with the new premium bullets out today like the Accubonds, Interbonds and Scirocco's I would not worry about matching the bullet to game of that size as they all will do it.


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I have 1 of each in the Kimber 8400's. It's nice but you may end up as broke as I am this week... bawling

For deer my vote is for the 270 WSM. It will kill a deer just as quickly as the other 2 and kicks the least of the bunch. If Elk are in the equation my choice would change......DJ


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I was told last month that Win is about to discontinue manufacturing rifles in the 7WSM due to poor sales. Don't know if this is true, but I have read it on a few gun-type sites lately.
 
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The best deer cartridge of all would have been the 25wsm but winchester bastardized it into the wssm.
 
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IMHO, all of those are overkill for deer. I'd get a 7-08 or 7x57 if you reload. Given only those choices I'd go with the 270WSM. capt david Let the flames begin for the 'overkill' statementsofa


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I was told last month that Win is about to discontinue manufacturing rifles in the 7WSM due to poor sales. Don't know if this is true, but I have read it on a few gun-type sites lately.


I doubt the veracity of these rumors.
Federal makes some excellent loads for it too......DJ


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you forgot to put an all of the above catigory.
They will all take deer efficiently and humanly, if the shooter does their part.
I have taken deer with my 300WSM using 165gr. Interbonds, this load does'nt kill them any better than my 25'06 (100gr. Partition or TSX) or my 284Win (139gr. Hornady BTSP, or 140gr. Partition). Nor does it ruin any more meat.
Dead is dead, and like one fellow I knew used to say " I would sooner loose 5 lbs. of meat as to loosing the whole animal"
If you got a hankering for a calibre go for it.
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Used my .270 WSM this year and went two for two. Two shots and two Mule Deer bucks in the freezer. Lawdog
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All great for deer but if its just deer, why look past the 270WSM?


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So, if Browning/Winchester is not closing out their 7mmwsm rifles, how come I can buy the featherweight, 70 stainless and the browning abolts for about $100 dollars less in 7mmwsm from my wholesalers? By the way, several of their offerings in the wssm calibers are on the cheap/closeout list also. Confused
 
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I picked the .300WSM.

Of coarse this may change as I only recently got the other 2,and haven't had a chance to work with them yet.


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Well, if you can find the 7WSM for $100 less, then I guess that cinches it!
And even if you were to go after something bigger, elk, perhaps, I don't think you'd need to go buy another rifle. It'll push a heavy 7mm bullet plenty fast for that as well. (Although if that was where I was headed, I'd get the 300 to start.
 
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i just got a remington special purpose chambered in the 270wsm, i will post on it after going to the range, i plan to hunt with it next year. it looks like a fine cartidge.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if Win. dropped the 7WSM, it's just too close to the .270WSM. I would go 7WSM, just because of that, too many .270 fans out there! nut


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So, if Browning/Winchester is not closing out their 7mmwsm rifles, how come I can buy the featherweight, 70 stainless and the browning abolts for about $100 dollars less in 7mmwsm from my wholesalers? By the way, several of their offerings in the wssm calibers are on the cheap/closeout list also. Confused


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I own both a 270WSM and 300WSM. If you are only going to get one, get the 300WSM. True it is overkill for a whitetail, but is the perfect medicine when you decide to take on elk, bear, or plains game in Africa. I read a statement one time that said anything a 20 guage can do a 12 can do better and I think the same philosophy holds here...anything the 270WSM can do the 300WSM can do better!
 
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So, if Browning/Winchester is not closing out their 7mmwsm rifles, how come I can buy the featherweight, 70 stainless and the browning abolts for about $100 dollars less in 7mmwsm from my wholesalers? By the way, several of their offerings in the wssm calibers are on the cheap/closeout list also. Confused


Ye'up, because that is what happens when a product is being discontinued! Get rid of the inventory!

Or it is a way to flood the market with the rifle, in an attempt to make the cartridge stick.

Also, the M70 Featherweight stainless won't be offered until late summer 05. Tried to get one in 270 WIN, but no distributor as of yet can get one.
 
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I'm partial to 30 cal, and don't think it is overkill. You can launch 130 gr Barnes triple shocks at suprising speeds, which will certainly do anything the 270 wizzum will do, and plus you can load 165's to do things you wouldn't do with the 270.

Then again, any of the wsm's will do the same thing more or less, so pick which one tickles your fancy.


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I also live in Alabama. Can't go wrong with 270 WSM. Both deer I took this year just folded, didn't even go a few yards, the short mag was more than enough. In my opinion, the other two are overkill. Elk? 140 gr. FailSafe will work fine. You absolutly will be happy with decision to go with 270 WSM. Great cartridge.
 
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I have the 300 SAUM for heavier game since I was planning a moose hunt. I have used a 7mm08 for deer for a long time and love it but to answer your question my choice would be the 7mm WSM loaded with 160 HPBT and it will shoot extremely accurate for you. There are lots of choices on the bullets. Look at the ballistics tables and bullet choices and make a choice. The negative to the 300 would be questionable accuracy with the lighter bullets. The 165's in my 300 shoot fine but I have not tried one lighter yet. No need to for me.
 
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