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I love to shoot! I am 70 years young. Like a lot of people, I have lost body muscle, etc. Can anybody tell me how to get it back, so my 30-06 does not eat my shoulder up? | ||
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Lightweight PAST recoil pad Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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Your answer: decelerator Jason "You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core." _______________________ Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt. Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure. -Jason Brown | |||
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Consider a muzzle brake. The one made by Vais works and is not as loud as some others. | |||
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Do you need the range and full power of an 06? if you handload, then down load it some.. loading an 06 to say 300 Savage Velocity reduces recoil a fair amount...and still gives a highly capable hunting round.. | |||
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Or you could get you a lead sled. It tames the hardest kickers. Rojelio | |||
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I'm 75 and have given up on anything that kicks harder than a 300 Savage..  And, for that, I use a PAST pad too. Don | |||
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Hey Madison, You are getting some excellent answers above. Also look into the Managed Recoil Remington factory ammo. Any of your local Gun Shops should either have it now, or will be getting it. I'm not a fan of Muzzle Brakes because of all the noise, but they do work. And the new generation of Recoil Pads are difficult to imagine just how well they work until you try them. Best of luck to you. | |||
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Madison, maybe I read it wrong, but I interpreted your post to ask 'how do I get it back' meaning your muscle mass??? If that is the case, I can tell you it is quite simple, if not easy. It is a simply the exercise of a muscle that keeps it a certain size, or excercise to the point of actually tearing the muscle down that will cause it to grow. To regain a little muscle, you must endure a LITTLE pain. In the gain/growth of muscle, the old adage 'no pain, no gain' actually applies. Maintaining muscle doesn't require any pain per se, just regular exercise of the muscle. Two times a week is minimal for maintenance, and 3 times a week is prefereable. For muscle growth--'to get some back' it is best to go 4 times a week--every otehr day basically. The amount of weight is actually of minimal importance, just do some basic exercises, and you should be a little sore a day and half or two days after. Not really painful, but sore, indicates you are on the right track. One other quick point on diet, you need to get about 1 gram of protein for each pound of body mass you have, so if you weigh 175 you need about 175 grams of protein a day to eliminate loss of muscle mass--150 will probably do, but...it's actually kind of hard to get enough if you are not focused on it. Just something to think about, a protein drink with 40 grams or so a day can help your progress, diet is so often overlooked, and it is harder than people think to eat in a way that helps your body maintain. Take it easy to start--common sense usually works, just enough weight that you feel that you are working a bit. My Pop is 80 and he just started working out 3 or 4 times a week, about 8 weeks ago. The difference already is incredible--bowling is his thing, and his strength,balance, endurance, and scores are much improved already. It may sound crazy, but as long as you want to maintain, you have to exercise those muscles....I don't do it enough myself, but I know the formula.  There are many better resources than me out there, but I have been formally trained/coached for a good while. The bowflex equipment site is great, and probably has good basic exercises for one to follow, I'm not sure of that, but I bought a set of their adjustable dumb-bells and the video it came with is excellent. If you want a few specific tips, I'd be happy to help if you want, just PM me, or better yet just do a few searches on the web....If you were actually looking for recoil reduction suggestions, just ignore my off point post, and read what others had said, good ideas there, and my one personal tip, hold the rifle tight to your shoulder, any space in between butt and shoulder seem to maximize recoil to me. Good Luck--Don | |||
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weight training is the deal to restore muscle mass. a 3 day a week full body workout would be a good way to start. | |||
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All the answers above are good. I am 20 years your junior and am still recovering from a back operation. I am working on regaining muscle mass , and at 50 it,s lots tougher than it was at 32 when i went through all this the 1st time. But a good recoil pad will help a lot, to reduce your felt recoil. But excersize to your shoulders will help some also. I recomend you hold a pair of dumbells and do what I call schruggs. (raise your shoulders up twords your ears) If you don't have any weights, 2 buckets filled with water works good too. And as for water drink plenty. Your mucles get soft when you are dehydrated. Putting water in your system makes a difference. If you ever had a good thick layer of mucle , its will be easier to bring it back than it would be build it from scratch. But the sugjestion I like best is to consider trading your 06 , for somthing like a .243. ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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 Aging can be a pain both mentally and physically.  There are those of us who are in the same boat as you. Perhaps, as many have , it's time to enjoy our sport by gunning down. That 06 might just make a nice hand me down to one of your children or grand kids.  Than catagorize what your rifle usages will be and select adequate rifles that won't bounce you around much.  I personally also use a number of home brewed muzzle brakes.  If you can meet your needs with cast bullets you may yet be able to put the 06 to good use and avoid the recoil. By the way playing with new and smaller rifles is fun.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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Don, That sounds like a whole lot of work.. I think I'll keep shootin' the 300 Sav.. Maybe when I turn 80 I'll get some religion and do that stuff your Dad is doing.. Don | |||
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I think highly of the 30-06, but I have a lot more fun shooting at the range with my .257 Roberts. With half the recoil of an '06, it's fun to shoot. Where I hunt here, I don't run into Bears where maybe you might. If you were to re-barrel down to Roberts, I think that your problem would be solved. | |||
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actually the older guys over 65 or so gain muscle mass and strength faster than the younger guys. don't quite know why but thats the word. maybe they do it smarter or sumthin. | |||
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My wife, my 11 year old nephew and I have killed deer, wild pigs and turkeys with Federal Low recoil ammo in 30/06 and Remington Managed Recoil ammo in the 308. They work great. Recoil is less than a 243 according to the manufactures. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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regaining muscle mass is a result of proper exercise (of the specific muscle group and their associated connective tissues) and diet modifications (less fats and more carbs). and it can be done at any age. | |||
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Hey Roanoke! I hunted a couple of times with a guy who was in his 80s and a guy with serious shoulder trouble in his late 60's. I learned a lot from them and I hope to hunt as long as they have. I'll bet these steps will keep you at it for at least another decade. First, I'd consider a .257, 7mm08 .260 or even a .270 to replace the 30'06. I used a 30.06 for twenty yrs. and switched to a .270 and a 7mm08 for whitetail but black bear ten years ago and have never missed the extra gun. A friend in his mid-sixties with a serious shoulder injury went to a .257 with no problems. Currently available recoil pads can work wonders. A good muzzle brake helps. I prefer the ones that you can remove to ease cleaning. I like the BOSS best. The only legitimate grip with muzzle brakes is the extra noise. I get around it by using electonic hearing enhancement. I've discovered I enjoy the woods more using the in the ear noise supression/hearing enhancement, and even use it when I crossbow hunt. Finally get yourself a good .22 rifle for painless target practice. I probably shoot 1,000 rounds of .22 a year now and shoot better than I did at 18. Madison, I'm from Pulaski county VA and love that part of the world. I wish you many more years of shooting and hunting. Sei wach! | |||
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Don, you aint wrong--it is definitely some work, but unfortunately it is the answer to regaining muscle, or maintaining it--unfortunately I know from personal experience!!! It can be a PITA, but it works, and it should be part of our life routine. it's just hard to keep at it....but,you may be on the right track, you know 80 is the new 60!!! Also, for the record, I'm the last guy to discourage a new rifle purchase!!! | |||
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