Is there any QR set-up that works on Pre-64 M70 so that when the scope is removed one can actually use the irons?

Thanks,

JDG

Have you checked Midway,Brownells?

I'm assuming that you ran into the same problem that I did. When the bases are installed, they are high enough that you cannot use the irons. I have Talleys on mine and got their peep which mounts on the rear base then fitted a taller front sight.

Scroll down until you reach the pop up peep.
http://www.brockmansrifles.com/sight_options.asp

I don't have one but plan on getting one for my Mdl 70 .30-06

Edit to fix link

Talley's on my pre-64's!

I ha the Brockman but changes to the Talley peep. Keep in mind that the pop-up will not work with every single setup. You need a bit of free space on the scope tube to compress the peep sight. When I had a 4x on my 06 it worked fine (the peep was actually compressed by the ocular), when I installed a 3 x 9 Leupold, the power ring hit the peep and there was not enough room to make this work so I sent my bases to Talley to have the rear shoulder ground off and re-blued and then just bought their peep. True, the Talley does not have the full adjustments like the Brockman but I have an NECG front and can change heights easily, plus the blades are fine-adjustable as well.

Point is, don't just assume the BRockman will work. DOuble check you have enough room for a) the peep to contact the scope tube and b) enough room to compress the peep and still allow your rings to clamp on the base.

Good luck.

This is pretty much what I expected: there is no absolute "yes". I guess my next thought would be to take the scope (Leupold 6x) and the bases off and just shoot the girl in her irons.

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Point is, don't just assume the BRockman will work. DOuble check you have enough room for a) the peep to contact the scope tube and b) enough room to compress the peep and still allow your rings to clamp on the base.

Good luck.

Great point, thank you for bringing it up! Did you get a chance to shoot much or at least zero with the Brockman? What was your impression of it compared to the Tally removable?

Thanks in advance

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Originally posted by Doublegun:
Is there any QR set-up that works on Pre-64 M70 so that when the scope is removed one can actually use the irons?

Thanks,

JDG

Warne, Talley, Leupold all make good QR bases/rings.

Push to shove, I like the Leupold QRW. Hell for stout. Not beautiful, but stout...

I have Leupold QR's on the rifle now but there is no way to use the irons and there is no way to channel them so that they work. Not to hijack my own thread really like the way the rifle feels without the scope. Maybe it's just the geometry of the M70's that makes the rifle feel much more nimble without a scope. I think that's one of the reasons I love carrying my G&H. The feel is sublime. The addition of a scope would only take away from the experience.

Why are rifles with irons so passé today?

JDG

JDG;

They are not passe'-it's just so many "shooters" have no idea how good they are at reasonable anges.

Unless it has a 25x mildot illuminated reicle telescope, many foks think you can't hit with it.

Maybe they ought to check out High Power long range shooting- irons beat glass most of time at range, even when used by top flight shooters.

All the irrelevant movement masked by the irons becomes very apparent when magnified by 25x or so.
Still scopes do have their place in the scheme of things.

back to your initial question- I have a pre64 300 H&H and with grand slam bases and Leupy QRW rings, I cannot see my irons.... I am tihnking of higher rear and front sights, or adding a classic lyman or redfield peep and calling it good.

Andrew,

Anyway to mount a classic Lyman 48 without modifying the wood or metal? My G&H sports a 48 and it is an engineering marvel. It amazes me how accurate and effective it is.

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Great point, thank you for bringing it up! Did you get a chance to shoot much or at least zero with the Brockman? What was your impression of it compared to the Tally removable?

The quality of the BRockman is fine although after hunting in rainy weather here in soup-land (Western Wa) I was worried about water in the fine spring mechanism and whether it would rust and seize. There was water in it but I didn;t see any rust at the time. Had I left it, who knows.

The peeps themselves are pretty similar as far as what you look through. so there isn't much difference in usage. The difference is the way they adjust, the BRockman uses a single cap screw for windage and the Talley uses two small set screws on each end of the 'wing' that the peep attaches to. Either one works just fine. The Brockman has the added advantage of the elevation adjustment but I didn't need it given my front sight options.

The real cool thing about the Brockman is that it is always on your rifle and I think that's why guys really dig it. The Talley, you have to find a place to store it and a grip cap ain't big enough, at least any that I have seen which is why i am trying to design my own. That is the one complaint I have about the Talley. Still, if the Brockman won't fit your options are shrinking and I think the Talley is the next best thing.

_BAxter

Good ol' Weaver's will do it... Had the same issue with a Walther 7x57 my youngest son (13) "borrowed" from me. We are heading to SA next year and he wanted "old school" and the ability to use open sights. I was floored though he has read George Hoffman's book and some of Boddington's works. So a 1.5-5X Leupold in Weaver mounts it was.

Why not check out my post on "Classic Rifles", "going to dallas"

The 375 has custom made mounts for Talley rings and NECG sights front and back and they are useable

Where is the post, Jim?

Thanks,

Jay