I use 150s in mine. If I really feel the need for some thing heavier I move up to my 06 or 300wm or even further up the caliber list.

While I have only owned one 270 in my life (a 270 Wby) my father-in-law lived with a Mod 70 in Alaska most of his life. Literally truck loads of deer, numerous moose and one very big brown bear (one shot drt) and only used 150 corelokts in the gun.

I got a 270 Wby last year after giving my beloved 270 Win to my son. While I love our 270 Wins, an 150g Partition at 3250 fps is a beautiful thing!

I still prefer the good ole 130 gr. bullet in the .270 but have hunted with the 150 and 160 NosLers with good results and the old 170 gr. RN Speer was a great killer, but defeated the point of shooting a .270 IMO..The 130 gr. Nosler or Rem Corelokt is hard to beat on deer and elk, Athough the 150 may be a better elk load, at least on paper..If I felt the need for more bullet/penetration then I would opt for the 06 or m 300 H&H with a 200 gr. Nosler.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
I still prefer the good ole 130 gr. bullet in the .270 but have hunted with the 150 and 160 NosLers with good results and the old 170 gr. RN Speer was a great killer, but defeated the point of shooting a .270 IMO..The 130 gr. Nosler or Rem Corelokt is hard to beat on deer and elk, Athough the 150 may be a better elk load, at least on paper..If I felt the need for more bullet/penetration then I would opt for the 06 or m 300 H&H with a 200 gr. Nosler.

Hey Ray! Before it's to late how bout writing a hunting short story book based on your experiences ??? The O Henry of the Rockies. This is not in jest, I am 100% serious!!! Will even buy a dozen books or more to give away as gifts . roger

I agree that this is not the true purpose of the great 270 Win. Nevertheless I at one point felt that I needed to make a bushveld rifle out of my 270 and saw no reason why with 7 thou difference in diameter and a similar bullet weight it could not be loaded to match a 7x57 or 7x64. I loaded some 170gr Rhino bullets and acquired some 180gr Barnes originals. The 170s shot about 1 1/2 moa at 2500 fps which was plenty for bushveld use but I never tinkered with that load or hunted with it. Hodgdon still has data online for the 180gr Barnes. I think you can get close to 2700fps but take a look at the data.

these days given this choice I would rather shoot a great quality 150gr of my choice and be done. If I felt the velocity needed to be lower I would load it so. For most game suited to a 170gr I'm not sure the extra 20gr gives me anything more that a better 150gr won't surpass anyway.Not to say that a 170gr Rhino won't work just fine.

Been loading the 165gr Matrix in mine. It has an 8 twist though. At sea level I could not get them to stabilize in the 10 twist. Velocity is low 2640 with H4831sc. Will try a slower one someday, but this is a half
minute load waaaaaay out there.

It also likes the 130 TSXs also.

Shane

Nice! I have a 270 Weatherby I bought very used. It has a 1 in 10 twist, but the Matrix folks say people have been getting 3100 fps with their 165g bullets in the 270 Bee with good accuracy. I definitely plan to try some when it warms up a bit.

Bartsche,
Thought about it and the kids rag on me about it all the time to write of my years in DEA and the Govt. along with my ranching and hunting years. Man you can do a lot in 80 years but I'm inclined to be more and more dormant in my golden years and would rather dream of the past than write about it! In other words to damn lazy, and too busy with my team roping hobby and intent of doing that as much as I can while I can. I'll be 80 in a week or 10 days and my goal is to rope until I fall off my horse deader n doornail at, at least. 90 or 95 and in the downtime do a little big game hunting!

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Bartsche,
Thought about it and the kids rag on me about it all the time to write of my years in DEA and the Govt. along with my ranching and hunting years. Man you can do a lot in 80 years but I'm inclined to be more and more dormant in my golden years and would rather dream of the past than write about it! In other words to damn lazy, and too busy with my team roping hobby and intent of doing that as much as I can while I can. I'll be 80 in a week or 10 days and my goal is to rope until I fall off my horse deader n doornail at, at least. 90 or 95 and in the downtime do a little big game hunting!

roger

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
Bartsche,
Thought about it and the kids rag on me about it all the time to write of my years in DEA and the Govt. along with my ranching and hunting years. Man you can do a lot in 80 years but I'm inclined to be more and more dormant in my golden years and would rather dream of the past than write about it! In other words to damn lazy, and too busy with my team roping hobby and intent of doing that as much as I can while I can. I'll be 80 in a week or 10 days and my goal is to rope until I fall off my horse deader n doornail at, at least. 90 or 95 and in the downtime do a little big game hunting!

Hope you're still roping at 100 Ray, Merry Christmas

Back to the topic, I've never understood the fixation with many on the 130 in the 270. The 150 in the 270 will do everything a 180 in the 30-06 will do.

Most will promote the 180 in the 30-06 as its "ideal" weight, but the same people will promote the 130 in the 270 as its "ideal" weight.

It maketh no sense.

The 150 in the 270 with its big BC/SD is about as "all around" as a cartridge/bullet weight gets.

The 150 in the 270 flies flatter, penetrates as deeply, and kicks less the the 180 in the 30-06... what's not to like?

Hopefully nothing's not to like. Just ordered up 200 150 NPT's with plans to make my 270 Win & WSM one bullet wonders.

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Originally posted by 16Bore:
Hopefully nothing's not to like. Just ordered up 200 150 NPT's with plans to make my 270 Win & WSM one bullet wonders.

I just ordered another 700... they work.

Damnation, not bad for a 68 year old bullet. Looks like a Kimber?

Yes, Kimber.

Nice. I have a Montucky WSM, solely because it was $750 shipped w/Talleys. Otherwise it'd be a vanilla 270. Kind of a no brainer...

I think the 270 Win is best served with a 130 grain bullet. I can push a 130 grain bullet just up to 3000 fps, but not much more before I have pressure problems. But, I am only getting 2700 fps with my 150’s, sad fact, the rifle shoots most accurately with those 150’s, but I can push a 150 grain bullet faster in a 308 Win than I can in my 270 Win.


FN Deluxe 24" Barrel new Wolff 22 pound mainspring

130 gr Federal Fusion (pulled) 57.0 grs IMR 4831 lot 022414 W-W Super, Fed210S, OAL 3.30
hornady sizing lubed cases
2 Sep 2014 T = 92 °F

Ave Vel = 2959
Std Dev = 26
ES = 65
High = 3005
Low = 2940
N = 5


130 gr Federal Fusion (pulled) 58.0 grs IMR 4831 lot 022414 W-W Super, Fed210S, OAL 3.30
hornady sizing lubed cases
2 Sep 2014 T = 92 °F

Ave Vel = 3041
Std Dev = 23
ES = 63
High = 3067
Low = 3004
N = 5

130 gr Nosler 55.0 grs AA 4350 wtd lot 9-95 Rem cases WLR OAL 3.250"

8 Feb 2012 T = 50 °F

Ave Vel = 2961
Std Dev = 6
ES = 16
High = 2967
Low = 2951
N = 5

150 gr Speer Flat Base 53.0 grains H4350 wtd lot 22655 R-P cases WLR OAL 3.250"

29 Dec 2011 T = 51 °F

Ave Vel = 2704
Std Dev = 18
ES = 49
High = 2727
Low = 2678
N = 5





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Slamfire, every rifle is different, but both of my son's rifles get 2900 fps with 150g Nosler Partitions out of their Rem 700 BDLs with 22" barrels.

This is what I load for them, please work up slowly and stop at any sign of pressure.

150g Partitions, Rem brass, Federal 215 primers, 57g H4831 2910 fps chrony'd

When the right handed BDL was my rifle, I'd get 3030 fps with 150g Nosler Partitions, but I load a bit lighter for my sons. Kills elk like lightning hit them.

My fixation with the 130 gr. began many years ago when JACK O SAID IT WAS SO, and he never lead me wrong! If anyone can tell the difference on deer or elk between the 130 gr. Nosler and the 150 gr. Nosler, ya gotta have a hell of an imagination!

I too, do not use anything heavier than 130 grain bullets in my .270s. If I feel the need for more bullet weight, I grab another rifle chambered for something bigger. The 130 grain bullet and the .270 cartridge go together like biscuits and gravy, ham and eggs, of Scotch and water.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
My fixation with the 130 gr. began many years ago when JACK O SAID IT WAS SO, and he never lead me wrong! If anyone can tell the difference on deer or elk between the 130 gr. Nosler and the 150 gr. Nosler, ya gotta have a hell of an imagination!

I know what you say. That´s how I compare the .240Weatherby vs .257Weatherby.

.240) 100grain @ 3400 ft/sec
.257) 117grain @ 3400 ft/sec

17grain ain´t gonna move much to make a deer feel the difference.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
My fixation with the 130 gr. began many years ago when JACK O SAID IT WAS SO, and he never lead me wrong! If anyone can tell the difference on deer or elk between the 130 gr. Nosler and the 150 gr. Nosler, ya gotta have a hell of an imagination!

Ray, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a 130g bullet. My rifle just loved (accuracy and velocity wise) the 150g Partition. When I did the math the 150g Partition at 3030 fps with it's better BC, shot almost as flat as the 130g Partition at 3150 fps and hit harder from point blank all the way to 600 yards and bucked wind a bit better. I do like the heavier bullets on bears too.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
My fixation with the 130 gr. began many years ago when JACK O SAID IT WAS SO, and he never lead me wrong! If anyone can tell the difference on deer or elk between the 130 gr. Nosler and the 150 gr. Nosler, ya gotta have a hell of an imagination!

Thought I read somewhere that JOC ended up using 150 NPT's for just about everything.

Jack also said a 30-06 was more versatile .277 130gr are good sheep bullets years ago my 1st big game rifle was a 270 wby I used 160 gr. NPT on a fine moose with good results. now I hunt with a 35 wheelen AI mostly. Kevin Erickson

16, I too remember reading O'Connor's comment on using the 150 gr. Partition.

BTW, I still have one unopened box of those 150 gr. LRAB you sent me. I'm pretty sure I'm going to go exclusively with the standard 150 Partition in the new barrel I had put on (which in its break-in process is shooting marvelously with 150 gr. Winchester PPs), so if you still have a use for the LRAB (or anyone else), I'll send them back to you.

Between O'Connor's writing and Chuck's experience, I'm going to do my best to lock-in the 150 partitions, and leave well enough alone! (I'm through with shooting out barrels on hunting rifles! )

Blessings to you all in 2015!

friar

The same to you. May you and yours all stay healthy, safe and happy.

I have no dog in this fight, I believe the 150 is as good as the 130, just think that both work fine on deer and elk, and they perform the same. As a matter of fact its an old argument that will never end and pretty much campfire talk...Like the 06 vs the .270, I like the o6 because it shoots 180 and 200 gr. Nosler, and has a slight edge over the 280, 270, etc and the .338 Win beats them all for NA but again not by a landslide.

Don't forget 45ACP vs. 9mm. Seems G&A beat that dead horse for eons...

I shoot a 45, my friend bought a 9mm. I told him if I just want to make somebody mad, I'll just insult them ...

This thread has been hijacked with pistol rounds, and its about time, it was getting boring!

I'll take a 9mm with Border Patrol Plus P Plus in my 14 shot Browning HI Power over the .45, other than that load I'll take a 230 gr. Federal HP for second choice. Like the 270 and 30-06 I like them both.