Got a shot at picking up a M77 MKII at a steal. Give me some particulars on this set-up. Been wanting a Whelen, but this is too good to pass up, I think. Tell me about the cartridge. I love my M77's so that's a non-issue. I'm thinking a Mcmillan Edge would lighten it up and a FX-II or FX-III would keep it that way.

Opinions?

David

I just purchased one a couple of months ago, I've only shot Remington 200 gr factory loads through it so far. It kept them around 2", right now I have some 200 gr Hornady spire points loaded up but haven't made it to the range yet. Nice looking rifle but the one problem I have is getting the rifle to feed.

It'll have to go to a gunsmith for that, it's rough on cases when one does go. I don't know if this is normal or isolated to the gun I bought. I like the rifle so I'll probably get it fixed.

Never handled the Ruger but have a 700 Classic with a Vari X-III 1.75-6. It shoots 225gr Partitions with IMR 4320 at about 2500fps into less than an inch. If I were to change powders I would try RL-7.

Good info guys, thanks.

Ray, I had wondered about feeding with this round as I've heard of a handful of issues with the WSM rounds. This is a similar round to them, but I though maybe the angle between the bullet tip and case shoulder wouldn't be quite as steep and maybe it would feed smoother. Either way I'm sure it can be corrected with some minor massaging by a good smith. Keep me posted.

7mm, Sounds like a nice package. And a shooter too. Sounds like you're running fairly mild loads in it, but realistically that's probably all you need. If it's accurate and you know where it shoots you should be good to any reasonable range.

Keep it coming.

Thanks,

David

Hi David,

I've been shooting a .350 RMag for a while. To be honest, I'm torn on keeping it. I can drive 250gr. Speer HC's & Grand Slams at 2500fps and get sub 3/4" groups from both bullets using RL15. Heck, that's approaching 9.3 x 62 power.

Hornady 200gr. IL's go into 1/2" clusters at 100 yards with 4064. 2750fps with velocity deviations that noone would believe anyway (errr, 2. Yeah. 2 fps. 10 rounds. 2 fps.).

So, my rifle is exceedingly accurate and can take anything on the plant this side of Africa's Big 5.

The problem is...the .350 is pretty much overkill for anything in the USA this side of a Grizzly. And while it would do Griz, I'd be better off with a .375 H&H or Ruger...

So I'm torn. I bought the .350 and in the end I realized I'd rather have a .375. If I'm going to go big, I may as well go all the way.

And truly, I think that's the one major failing of the .35's - it's not quite big enough but it's overkill for anything else.

On the other hand there just aren't that many 1/2" factory rifles out there at all so I may just have to keep it on principle.

BTW: http://35cal.com/

You'll thank me for that site later.

Also: RL15 is THE .350 RMag powder for 250gr bullets.

I have been using the .350 for many years as my go-to for eastern whitetails....The 200 gr. Core Lokt really unwinds them fast. I use a stiff load of H4895 which gives sub-MOA results in a 700 Classic as well as a 660....chronos over 2800 fps out of the Classic....

No feeding problems in either rifle.....

x2mosg,
i do shoot a fairly mild load because it is scary how little the groups are. Even max loads of IMR 4320 hover right around an inch but kick the piss out of you since my rifle is fairly light. For anchoring big bucks coming in to rattling horns or hammering hogs my load offers everything i need it to do without giving too much in pay back.

rnovi, Thanks. Good info for sure. Bookmarked it.

woodhick, Thanks.

7mm, Exactly my point. Does everything you could ask of it, including being accuraet as hell, and is still pleasant to shoot. What more could a guy want.

David

rnovi,

I already have a 375 H&H and a 416 Rigby. Got a 300 Wby as well, so this is redundancy. I've been sweating over having a 35 Whelen for a while now. This is a "what the hell" kind of thing, I don't have one. Also, if I get to buy this rifle, another guy has a hold on it right now, it's a steal at $300. Once again, what the hell? Worst case, I'll turn it over in the spring and make a little on it. But I do think this is a pretty cool little rifle. I have been thinking coastal brown lately.

If it's in nice shape I'd pick it up for $300 because it's different, I am a 35 nut and I could always get my money out of it, or probably make a buck or two if I sell it. Go for it! Lou

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Originally posted by x2mosg:
This is a "what the hell" kind of thing, I don't have one.

/snicker...

Load it with 125 or 158gr. JHP's and go Bunny-Bustin'.

Scary thing is, even with a pistol bullet, there's just not that much meat damage.

Same thing as a Whelen in a different package. I love my Whelen. The only thing that would make me hesitate about a 350 would be brass availability.

I have a 350 RM and a Whelen and at one time a couple 358 Win's to. I like the 35s. I guess I don't see how it is too much gun if you are thinking about stepping up to the 375. It may not be ebough gun for a lot of critters but those are only dreams for me so I will stick with them.

As an aside NEVER sell an accurate rifle. If you want another find a way to get it without selling.

If I get the chance the rifle is mine. Another guy had it on hold when I called. I'm next in line if he passes. I'll call back tomorrow and hopefully pick it up Friday.

Brass is at Midway and Midsouth at least. Probably elsewhere also. Don't see that being an issue. I'll probably buy 100 pieces to start with and go from there. I'm thinking 225 or 250 Partitions would be just about right. Only real disadvantage I see with this round is inability to use heavier/longer bullets, but then again, I have a 375 and 416 if that's needed.

Yep, if opportunity presents, I'll be posting pictures in a couple days. Once again, What the hell? I don't have one.

Thanks guys,

David Walker

What is the magazine length of these Rugers in 350 RM?

It's in a short action, but I'm not sure of the mag. length. From what I've read 2.80" is pretty much max. COL, IIRC.

Anyone?

David

I have a ruger allweather model 77 mark II in 350. The mag is longer than average. These were made on the WSM receivers which were abit longer than standard short action. I can go as long as 2.900 with about 90 percent reliability. As the mag spring got some use and compressed abit feeding was not as reliable.I set things back to 2.85 to insure totally reliable feeding. Mine is extremely accurate. I shoot 225 grain seirras. I have shot 1/2" measured edge to edge not center to center groups. Great gun.

Mike,

That's good news and damn fine shooting.

Just curious, what's the recoil like with these Rugers in 350, say with a 225, maybe your load Mike. I know recoil is subjective, but compare it to a 300 mag or maybe 375 or something similar maybe.

Thanks,

David

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Originally posted by mike7mm08:
I can go as long as 2.900 with about 90 percent reliability. Great gun.

I had the box on mine extended to 2.95" ... now I can seat Woodleigh's 310gr RN in my Ruger 350RemMag. From 125gr to 310 gr is quite a range of projectile choices ... varmints to anything. I sold a 375H&H to buy my Ruger 350RemMag and have had no regrets.

If rumours are correct ... 2009 will see Woodleigh release PP 35cal pills in 225gr, 250gr and just maybe 275gr.
Cheers...
Con

Good luck on the other guy passing!! The way I see it, from what you said you have already, the 300 Wby gives you LONG range, the 375 gives you heavy game at medium ranges, the 350 would give you all the oomph you'll ever need for North American game at short to med ranges, and the 416 for the dangerous stuff. If you can pick it up and it shoots well, you've got battery for almost all game in the world at all distances. Cut the barrel down a bit to make a real handy dense cover short range gun, you'll lose a little velocity but then your rifles won't be so redundant

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Originally posted by x2mosg:
Just curious, what's the recoil like with these Rugers in 350, say with a 225...

David

I'd say it's pretty much identical in feel to the .35 Whelen...

Just my shoulder, but a 200gr. at 2900fps feels about the same as a .300WM.

On the Bench, the 250/2500 fps load in my Rem 673 hurt without a Mag Past Shield.

Well, bad news. I called and the guy at the store said the other guy took it. Damnit. That's two I've missed from then in the last 2 months. Missed a M70 FWT SS '06 couple months back at a steal as well. Gotta start watching a little closer.

Maybe next time. Thanks for the help guys. The search continues.

David

P.S. No reason this much informative discussion shouldn't continue. Hell we can even talk about Whelens for a while if need be.

Recoil is not to bad. I put a simms pad on mine. It is nothing worse than a standard 06. As soon as I dig it it up I will post my load data. Hunting opens tommorow so it might take a few days. I got a whelen too.

somebody on this site or campfire has a rem classic in the classifieds.

https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2711043/m/255102279

i paid $500 for mine NIB a couple of years ago from a dealer who had a bunch of NOS classics

I have a old original Rem 600 that has been in my safe for 20 years. Never shot it. I hear the 5 lb rifle kicks quite a bit.

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I hear the 5 lb rifle kicks quite a bit.

I shot one once.....notice I said "ONCE"

My 673 isn't bad at all. It's got the laminated stock, which fits me well.

Like the old commercial said, "try it, you'll like it!"

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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I hear the 5 lb rifle kicks quite a bit.

I shot one once.....notice I said "ONCE"

I got a reminton XP 100 in 350mag.I have yet to find anyone willing to shot it more than once.