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30' 06 for Elk I know it's been done to death. I'm getting ready to work up a load. I'm thinkin' 180 grain, But a 180 what over what powder  ?Any of you Elk hunters have a pet load to share? --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | ||
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H4350 is the way to go in the 06. I would start at around 54.5 grains and work up in .2 increments till I found my most accurate load. I would not exceed 57.5. These would be for a nosler partition or similar bullet. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I have been thinking Sierra GK, as I have a few boxes, but they'll keep. --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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The 180 grain of your choice.....RL-22....no trouble making 2,800 FPS in a 24" barrel Here's some great data /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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What he said. Or H4350 ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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With the 180 bullet, I've achieved quite a few excellent loads with IMR4064, including Speer, Nosler, and Sierra bullets. It is one of my first choices. I have also had many additional excellent loads with H4350, IMR4350, AA4350, Re19 and Re22. Give me any of the above and I'll get a load with a good bullet and rifle. My bullet choices would include a partition, accubond, Etip, TTSX, TSX, Northfork, Aframe, Scirocco, and likely the Interbond, even though I've never tried it. I have a dandy load with the 168 TSX and TTSX with the former over 55.0 gr H4350 and it is a repeatable small 3 shot group at 100 and 200 yards. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on any elk. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I like this combo and just about any 180 will do over 95% load of Rel. 22 but I am partial to the 200 grain partition in my 06. Captain Finlander | |||
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My rifle a CZ 550 FS has a 20.5 inch barrel. How will that change things? --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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It will be about 100 to 200 fps slower than the book. Captain Finlander | |||
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My son used his old Husky 30.06 and Federal HE loads with 180gr Nosler partition-not loaded anymore I'm told. A plain gun with only one redeeming quality-it shoots dime sized 5 shot groups One shot kill at 275 yds. I didn't know he could shoot that well. He couldn't have hit a paper target but his field shooting is flawless. Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Overdoing. | |||
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54.5 gns of W-760 behind a 180 gn interlock for 2750 fs. Very consistant and best accuracy Ive made. Or if you prefer, 55.5 gns of Imr 4350. Both good loads. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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A tad slower. Take a look at Hornady Superformance ammo with a tough bullet to compensate for the short bbl. Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my guns | |||
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I have no data to back this up with, but it is possible that with your shorter bbl that you may get a more effective load from a 165 gn slug.. I know my crony testing has shown that a 180 is clearly the more efficent pill in MY gun, but that is with a 24" bbl.. Just some food for thought.. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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+1 but with a monolithic type such as Barnes TSX or Hornady GMX. The 180 might take up a small amount of powder capacity as apposed to the smaller bullet that can really be pushed. Captain Finlander | |||
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I've been shooting 165s with 49.5 grains of 4064 in this and a previous '06. I switched to 180 Sierra GK for better accuracy in this rifle. This is fine for deer and local moose are shot at under 200 yds. But now I'm thinking strongly about an Elk hunt next year. I have a 308s, a 30'06 and a 375 H&H. I would prefer to lug the '06 if it's up to the task. If 165s are reasonable for elk. I could go back to them for the higher velosity. I've got time to tweek a load. --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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If the 6.5x55 swede is capable of taking moose than how do you figure that the 06 might not be up to the task? Captain Finlander | |||
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165's for elk are just fine, its what I have always used. In my rifles I always liked them better then 180's. And every elk I've shot a 165gr bullet into has died. If you think every possible niche has been filled already, thank a wildcatter! | |||
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The rifle , not the catridge. --------------------------------- We unfortunately will vote our way into socialism. The end result will be having to shoot our way out of it. | |||
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People use 165's on Elk all the time. I prefer 180's. I would suggest a Hornady interlock or better. Accubonds, partitions or ?? Lots of great very suitable slugs that will do a nice job for ya..  AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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30-06 is great for elk, we have killed 8 with the following load, all DRT 57IMR4350/180 Nosler Partition. We also use the 165 Partition with 4350. Jerry NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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57.5-58.0 H4350 180 Partition or 180 Accubond. I wouldn't hesitate one bit to use the 180 Ballistic Tip... great bullet with a beefy, heavy jacket The 30-06 is the "everyman's elk rifle"... works great. 165's work too...  | |||
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Subtracting about 30 feet per second per inch is a good rule of thumb. | |||
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Partial FL re-sized RP brass, Fed 210, 180 gr Accubond and 60.5 gr RE-22 touching the lands is .5's in my 06 all day long, hits hard.. Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon, windage and elevation... | |||
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H4350 and 180 grain Nosler Partition. Worked for me on a bull at over 300 yards. | |||
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Partition over 56.5 grs. of IMR 4350. Accurate and deadly on elk in my mod. 70 featherweight. "If you are not working to protect hunting, then you are working to destroy it". Fred Bear | |||
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