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338/06? Why not 9.3x62? | ||
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 Why not 35 Whelen and split the difference. Let's see the 9.3X62 can give you a little heavier bullet easier. Just a touch more powder. The 338-06 give lighter bullets easier. Put the 338-06, 35 Whelen and 9.3X62 in a hat and draw and you can't go very far wrong with what you choose. As usual just my $.02 Paul K | |||
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You're right about that, there isn't enough difference to merit discussion especially since this topic has been done to death.  | |||
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One (or more) of each in the way to, and throw in an 8mm-06 too. No sense discriminating, invite them all.  | ||
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Of the 3 I would prefer the 9,3x62. I say this after taking quite a bit of game with my 9,3x74R DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Just get one of each. Shoot both for while, take them on a couple of hunts. You realize that if you have a 9.3 x 62 or 9.3 x 74R you have to take it to Africa, it a rule. If you don't take it on safari the ghosts of old German gunmakers will haunt your gun cabinet and fiddle with the settings on your scopes. | |||
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9.3 bullets have better ballistic coeficients and maintain better velocities down range better than 338s or 35s. Most 338 bullets are made to perform at 338 WM velocities, so they are harder than they need to be for a 338-06. 35 cal bullets are softer than 338s but have poorer ballistic coeficients and will fall behind the 338s beyond 100 yards for the same bullet weights. The 9.3 bullets are made for 9.3 x 62 and x 74 velocities, thus the 9.3 have just the right blend of bullet construction, velocity and the ability to maintain that velocity down range, that's why the 9.3 x 62 has been around and taking game for 100 years in its present unchanged form. It's hard to improve on something as close to perfection as the 9.3 is. And it is surprisingly accurate for such a big round. 20 or 22 inches is plenty of barrel length in a 9.3. Close to 375 H&H effectiveness in a handier and lighter rifle with less recoil, what's not to like about that? Rusty | |||
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I'd vote for 9.3, but then I'm hooked, an absolute junkie. Rusty Hook really said a lot with his observations about the nature of the bullets for the 35's, 338's and 9.3's. Also with regard to the 8mm's, the light ones are for 8mmMausers and the heavies for 8mmRemMags. Another thing to consider is that the 9.3 case has a bit more capacity, and the bore diameter to case capacity lets you play more with the 9.3 than you might with the 338. I can tell you from personal experience that the 9.3 is more than enough gun for taking anything you'll run into on this continent, and is capable of taking anything in Africa in a pinch. I've personally taken everything from dik dik to eland including lion and leopard, and sable and roan with it. It was more than adequate for everything! Kudude | |||
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My approach was the .338-06 for longer shots since it is scoped and the 9.3x62 for anything less than 200 meters since it only has a Lyman #35 peep sight. For now anyway. Now I need a double in 9.3x74R because I got hold of some Norma brass. I hate when that happens, lol.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Get a 8mm-06, or a 35 Whelen, both are better choices, and more versatile. | |||
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Boy not sure how you actually pulled off picking my two least favorite calibers over thirty, but the duck comes down and you definately win the prize. Obviously I am not in agreement with that statement. When working on the bottom of my heap in caliber choices the 35 is above the 8mm though. .308-.338-.366-.375-.423-.458-.477 not really interested in any tweens. I am picky on the lower end also. | |||
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Let's see...with the exception of the .22-06 and maybe the 6mm-06, it's damn hard to find anything wrong with any round based upon the ought six case. Some people like em...some don't, but they ALL work pretty well with a fairly high level of efficiency. See if you can find a bad one" .25-06 6.5-06 270 280 .30-06 8mm-06 .338-06 .35 Whelan I'm leaving out the .400 Whelen for the same reason I left out the 6mm -06.....nothing wrong with them but they are the extreme on the case. Pick one and you can hunt anything in the US!! No I don't think the .25-06 is a brown bear gun...however a 120 gr Nosler and the right shot will certainly kill one cleanly. The year of the .30-06!! 100 years of mostly flawless performance on demand.....Celebrate...buy a new one!! | |||
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I like the 9.3x62 and the .338 winnie so either of those would be my vote !! I have not taken to the 338/06 for some reason. | |||
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The 338/06 has a good bullet selection. Personally, I'd skip the whelen and go straight for the 9.3. | |||
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If you ARE looking for something with a little more wallop, weight and frontal area than the '06 can provide the 338-06 with the 210 NP is just the ticket. It also has the same trajectory for all practical purposes as the '06 with a 180 NP. If we are talking practicality I think anything between the 338-06 and 375 H&H is unnecessary. Of course in the real world of gun Looneys practicality is irrelevant and that is why I have owned 4 differnt 338 chamberings and a couple of 358 caliber rifles. In my mind though the 9.3x62 is a wannabe 375 and not really a competitor in the necked up '06 category. I'm not trying to start anything nor do I think I'm some kind of expert. I just don't see where it does anythiing remarkably better than any other round. I do see that the 9.3x62 is something a little different than the norm so perhaps that is enough to warrant the attention it gathers here on AR. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I like my 9.3X62 I can get bullets from 232gr up to 320gr it doesn't use a huge amount of powder for the power this round delivers and recoil is very managable and I can find (although dificult and expensive here in Oz) loaded factory Ammo and unprimed cases I don't know much about the 338/06 but looking at a reloading manual it appears to give about a 100 fps increase in speed with a 220gn bullet compared to the 30/06 is factory ammo available for the 338/06? I don't think there would be to much difference in performance between the 2 rounds I would think the 338/06 better for the lighter side and the 9.3 for the heavier side | |||
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.338-06= wannabe .338winmag Make mine a 9.3X62 -------------------------------------------- Well, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? | |||
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.338winmag= dont wannabe=too much recoil+overpowered for application | |||
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I have a 9.3x74R in a Merkel drilling, a 9.3x62 in an original Wm. Oschatz Mauser 98 fancy sporter and five .338 Win mags. With optimal loads with heavy NP bullets, I honestly do not notice any recoil difference between them and I am probably going to get a CZ550 FS next month when the one on order hits my gunshop. I seriously doubt that a better North American packing DGR for a working bushman exists than a light Mauser chambered in 9.3x62, loaded with 286 NPs at 2350-2400 fps. I have had quite a number of encounters with Grizzlies, including three VERY close ones and NO .30-.06 feels quite as comfortable under these circumstances. As to longrange suitability, I can't shoot too well, anyway, and prefer stalking to within 100 yds. of game before shooting, so, for me, it's a moot point. | |||
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Rusty Hook: Not all the .338-caliber bullets are designed tough. In fact, there is quite a large selection of standard or relatively soft bullets one can choose from. Every bullet manufacturer produces such bullets for the .338-caliber, from Nosler to Woodleigh. If you search for ".338 Sabi" on the Internet, it will take you to the .338 Sabi, which is the African version of the .338-06. This cartridge is designed around the heavy .338 bullets, which in fact have greater SD than quite a lot of other bullets. Now, here is a good article on the 9.3x62:
http://www.gunsandammomag.com/EUR/ | |||
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The 9.3 is an excellent round. I have a custom p17 enfield in this caliber. It has a forward mounted scout scope and fully loaded holds 5 down and one in the pipe. Thats a lot of firepower with a 286gr Partition at 2400fps. The barnes TSX can be loaded to 2550fps. I shot my moose this year at 270 yards with mine. I'm a big fan of the 35 whelen also but you gain 36gr of bullet at the same speed with the 9.3x62. I think the 9.3 is better for bigger stuff but the whelen is every bit its equal up to elk sized game. I really like my 9.3.  | |||
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Thebear_7 Neat looking rifle. | |||
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I've shot a 338-06 for a long time & recently built myself a 9.3x62 just because the round has always interested me. What i've felt after reloading for it & shooting it for a while is that I have just put my foot into the threshold of the big bore world.  Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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Get both the .338-06 and 9.3x62. These are a couple of my favorites. A shot not taken is always a miss | |||
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Thebear_78 Who makes that stock? Synthetic or painted wood? Also, I assume that is a finnish on the metal not stainless? Tell me more. MyP17 is still 30-06 and is my beater gun I call "Old Ugly". I've killed some bears with it and plan some day of a rechambering job to a 9.3x62 or a 411Hawk. --------------------------------- It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it | |||
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I like that enfield ! As for the caliber choice, I would have to go with the one that fits the game and terain you will be encountering most. ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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There is not a critter around that is going to tell the differants between a 250gr at 2400 not a 285 gr at 2400 nor the differants between .338 .358 or .366. Or a 100 fps up or down. | |||
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So true, but then we've got to have something to argue about around here!! -Bob F.  | |||
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If you are hunting deer & elk, the .338-06 will extend your range a bit. For heavy game in close, the 9.3 will give you an edge where trajectory is no problem out to 250yds. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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Z1r Since you have some 9,3x74R brass, I can highly reommend a Chapuis double rifle. They come ready for scope mounting, the rib pre-cut for a scope mount. The factory Chapuis pivot mount goes back to zero 100%. I have been very happy with my Chapuis. Mine is the UGEX. If I knew then what I know now I would have gotten a higher grade with an extra set 20 guage barrels, and an extra set of Cape Gun bbls in 9,3x74R/20 Ga. I just cannot say enough nice things about the Chapuis 9,3x74R. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Thanks for the heads up, sounds perfect. Now I will have to start saving my pennies. Or, I could just sell the brass, naw, that would make too much sense. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Huh? I thought the 9.3X62 came out seven years before the .375 H&H (1912). How does that make it a wannabe? I'm not expert here, but just wondering  SCI, NRA Life Member Warm trails and blue skies! | |||
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I'd go with a 9.3 x 62..... NO one knows what one is..... But they do know what a 338/06 is and you will always have some one bitching about it.... But with the 93. x 62, they won't know what one is, so you can enjoy the silence and lack of dissenting opinion from all your " know it all" acquaintences.... A very good feature in any rifle or caliber! thinking outside the box... seafire  | |||
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Depends.... What are you mostly going to hunt? Where are you mostly going to hunt? What tickles yer fancy? I feel comfortable with a 338-06 with 250gr bullets for anything in the world.
The 9.3 will kill stuff better? for the simple fact...bigger diameter bullet = bigger hole. I'm thinking if I would want or need something bigger than the 338-06. I'm pretty sure I would skip over the Whelen and the 9.3. | |||
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SD, I think Jim Carmichael reiterated a 338 WM with 250 partition would handle ALL his chores if down to one rifle/load. Seafire, I guess there is a reason I never chose the time proven 30-06. It was always TOO common for me, and I have shot a few, they always kicked pretty good-though my 8lb 338-06 with decelerator pad was alright. Extra weight and good pad must have helped a good bit. Funny all the guys in camp in Colorado, never knew what a 338-06 was, thought it was silly and a shorter range rifle. With 225 PT at 2670 I would have fired up to and perhaps slightly over 400 yds on an elk. I know a WM can reach further but likely would never fire beyond what I would with a '06 version for ethical reasons. Yes, using 'different' ctgs always gets a lot of grins from onlookers! | |||
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Between the three, 338/06, 35 whelen, and 9.3X62 I recommend the 9.3X62 hands down. It will do everythiing the other two will do with heavier bullets. If less than 250grs are acceptable just load 200/220gr bullets in the 30-06. | |||
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I just came home from my deerstand -shot two fawns with my 9.3x62 using a 250gr Rhino bullet. So far this year I´ve taken 7 whitetail, one gemsbok, a duiker, a steenbok, a springbuck, one red fox and a crow with it. I simply love this caliber! So my advice is obvious even if I´ll use another caliber for Namibia if I ever go back -the 9.3 isn´t really a long range shooter, at least not in my hands. | |||
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