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anyone tried 200 or 160 gr ttsx or tsx barnes in a lapua I am thinking of a fast medium. maybe slow the twist down and use only the light bullets anyone tried this or have any opinion as to velocity and such.


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I don't shoot barns bullets because they put alot of copper in my barrel
 
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persnally never tried it but you could. May I ask what you would use them for, I am not thinking of an advantage right now.
 
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I use mostly 338 x bullets in several different cases so just better for me to use 338 instead of say 7mm or .308 or whatever wanted a fast 160 to 200 gr deer elk whatever. plus I have an action set up for 416 rigby and I dont need another one of those so 338 lapua seemed natural


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I load some Barnes 185 boat tails in a buddys 338 RUM and it shoots em great out to 700 yds. I think that is as far as we tried it. It has the factory Rem barrel too. My buddy wanted to try the 165's but the 185's were ballistically better at longer ranges. That Lapua just may like em. God Bless, Louis
 
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I shot light conventional X bullets for years with good results. When I switched to the 225 TSX I got better accuracy, and after shooting some game my hunting partner and I feel like they kill a bit quicker, but you will find that the TSX gets pretty explosive at these velocities....I blew the far shoulder completely off my deer last year....As in vaporized.
Don't get me wrong its a great game bullet, but there is a definite wow effect the first time one witnesses the destruction of a high velocity TSX

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I pushed 225gr Partitions to 3180 out of my 338Ultra. The load shot just over an inch at 200yrds.
My 338 Edge gets pretty close to 3300 with similar accuracy. I am going to try the 225 Accubond over the Edge this year....Should be an effective long range combo.

I have a 18 pound tactical style 338 Edge that I regularly shoot out well past 1000yds. I have been able to hold 1/2 minute accuracy with the 225 Accubond all the way out to the 1000yd target butt....Not bad for a hunting bullet!

You will love your 338Lapua!
 
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I shoot the 225 grain TSX and MRX in mine, but the 185's sound interesting at about 3500 fps.

Here is the online Barnes data:

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/338LapuaWeb.pdf
 
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i used to shoot deer with the 160s out of my sako 995 in 338 lapua. max loads. made me feel guilty. thought i missed on the first two deer. they were down under the grass and scrub dead by the time i could reacquire sight through the scope.

the barnes will knock the hair off a whitetail on both sides, leaving a near halo around the deer of about 2.5 feet. took one at about 70 yards and one at close to 200 with the same effect. one of the shots took out about 1.5 feet of spine. no stopping that bullet at that speed.

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what twist is the 995 how did it do for for accuracy


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for some reason i think it is 1:10. it is listed in one of the hornady reloading manuals as the test mule. Nope, just checked, it is a 1:9 twist. rifle shoots well. very similar point of impact at 100 yards with bullet weights from 160 to 225 grain bullets. have not shot anything heavier than a 225 out of this rifle.



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Every Sako 338Lapua I have ever seen came with a 12" twist.....I am willing to bet yours is too.
 
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Sorry....Just noticed you have a 995 and I have never checked the twist on one of those.

The 995 is the TRG action less the tactical stock and a few other accessories......So I'm still a bit suspicious of the 9" twist?
 
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I pulled the 1:9 twist rate from the 5th Hornady loading manual. Don't know much about the 995 pedigree except I wish I had a few more examples in other calibers. Think they made the rifle in Lazzeroni calibers and Weatherby 378 derivatives as well. There for a few years, they were cheap, especially the standard actions in 270 and 30-06. Mine was a gift.
 
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I was thinking of a 12 the 9 kinda suprised me too. I am looking to use a model 30 remington


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I experimented with Barnes 160gr XFB with a .338/.378 WBY. They shot well sometimes, but had strange fliers other times. Copper fouled the bore so bad that I gave up the experiment.
On the other hand, the Barnes 225 XFB shot really well. Sub MOA every time.
I thought copper fouling with the 160's at 3500fps could be the problem.


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338 lapua with light bullets



I must ask, WHY?


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i started out shooting groundhogs with the 160s. had some loaded rounds and took them deer hunting. similar results. if you like blood shot meat, this is your bullet.
 
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I've tried the 200gr & the 210 nosler in my 338 RUM. relsults were 3'' group at 200 yds. nothing great but not bad. so now its sighted in with those accubonds 225gr and it will put all rounds into a 1.5 group at 200 yds
 
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I agree with jwp475, why on earth would you want to shoot light bullets in a round designed to toss heavy bullet faster than most. I have shot my .338 Lapua from here to eternity and so have my son and grandson, but the 225's are the lightest we use. I like speed with accuracy, generaly that doesn't go with short fat bullets like a 160 grain .338 pill. Good shooting.


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Originally posted by x-man:
Every Sako 338Lapua I have ever seen came with a 12" twist.....I am willing to bet yours is too.


My Blaser TACII 338 Lapua Magnum has a 1:10 twist rate.


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thank you bob for the info.

it is looking like the 210 ttsx.

I am doing this because I feel like it and I like 338 better than say 308 or 7mm if it does not work like I want I can use the bullets on a different 338 project.


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The TTSX has the best BC of all of the 338 bullets by Barnes.

How do you intend to use your 338 Lapua, just asking


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CRUSHER:
thank you bob for the info.


I am doing this because I feel like it



Best darn answer a man could give..
And all that is needed.

Personally I think it is a cool idea, and if you look at the velocities you can get out of a 338 compared to a 30 cal with same weight bullets it makes a ton more sense.

Plus if you decide to take it brown bear hunting you can always load you up some 547 grain monster whackers, or whatever the hell you crazy suckers shoot in those cannons..


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Originally posted by CRUSHER:
thank you bob for the info.

it is looking like the 210 ttsx.

I am doing this because I feel like it and I like 338 better than say 308 or 7mm if it does not work like I want I can use the bullets on a different 338 project.


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Crusher,

I worked up loads for a custom 338RUM that I took to Namibia last year.

93grains of Re-22 gave .5 groups with the 210TTSX. Case capacity difference between the two rounds is 3 grains in favor of the Lapua.

The 210 Swift Scirocco shot almost as well, but with a 1 grain lighter powder charge........


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