Took my first elk 10 days ago in Wyoming. A decent 4 x 5 bull at about 175 yards quartering toward me.The shot was high shoulder clipping the lower spine with bullet under the skin just in front of the off side hind quarter. Shooting a 210 gr. Partition out of a .338 Win. Recovered weight is just under 150 grains or 71%. Bull was dead where he stood, I was pleased with the bullet's performance. I'm a long time Partition fan having taken a lot of whitetail and a few hogs with several different calibers.

Be very careful--they rode Michael458 out of town on a rail for stuff like this.

otherwise, good report--thats what I use in my .338 WM

Looks like very typical Partition performance -- intact base, perfectly mushroomed jacket, and completely shed lead front section -- all taken from a very dead animal!

I have killed more than a few elk with that bullet in the .338 Win. and ton or two of big African Plainsgame and even a couple of DG animals.

Nosler Partitions are the bullets by which all others are judged by, and that's no light praise..Also, the Accubonds are certainly making a statement these days.. I have shot the Accubonds but have yet to kill an animal with one..

Well mr.Nosler didnt really do anything radical when he designed the NP,
hE just used common sense engineering design to overcome the shortcoming of what he found to be under-forming soft point bullets of his time.
tHe fact other cupcore bulet companies since, have copied his design principles, is a great testimony.

The H-Mantle had a partition in 1934, so it's not like Nosler invented it.

The H-Mantle only has an inner ring feature on the inside of the copper jacket,

H-Mantle

whereas Noslers design has a full copper partition with two totally independent portions of lead.

It's just splitting hairs.

iD say there is enough difference in the NP design to make it distinctly unique and different to the H-Mantle.

iF the Germans had accused Nosler of copying their design I doubt it would have stuck.

The RWS H-Mantle bullet, often compared to a Nosler Partition but not a true partition bullet.
More similar to the Hornady InterLock bullet, the H-Mantle was by all accounts a very good bullet in the lead nose version, not so much the copper capped version as pictured.

and an unnecessary hair cutter ridge on the jacket. Sorry. Apples to peaches (NP) comparison here. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Trax:
The H-Mantle only has an inner ring feature on the inside of the copper jacket.....

The "hair cutter" ridge is very necessary to bullet performance, it makes for beautiful sharp bullet holes in a paper target

Congrats! Been using 150g Partitions in our 270 for many years. Always excellent performance.

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Originally posted by eagle27:
The "hair cutter" ridge is very necessary to bullet performance, it makes for beautiful sharp bullet holes in a paper target

It comes handy - many times when shot doesn't exit the animal, cut hair is the only sign of the hit.

One shot Johnny, and elk steaks in the freezer! What better medicine could you ask for.
Another plan comes together perfectly! Congrats to both of you!

Thanks tc98, and good luck on your hunt. Keep us posted.

Nimrod308,

The 210 NP was the first premium bullet I ever used and it has worked perfectly for me on moose, caribou, sheep, deer and antelope. It may be old technology and have a low BC but it performs extremely well and the faster you drive it the better it works.

Congrats on your bull.

Mark

Well done on your Elk hunt, it's a great feeling getting your first, mixed emotions of success, respect and empathy are the one's I get.
I have had a love affair with Nosler bullets for a few years now, 25 or so. I really like the BT for cross gully shots that are long, the Accubond for hunting long range and target shooting, and the Partition for light calibres, like the 115gr 25 cal in my 257AI and 25-06, the 60gr Partition in my 22-250.
I also use Partitions in bigger cals, but turn to them more in smaller cals.

Cheers.

I don't think the H mantle is anything close to a Nosler Partition, nor would I call it splitting hairs, when in fact the H mantle is simply a Hornady Interlock!! All are good bullets that work fine IMO..but there is a sugnificant difference in my opinion..

However I have to confess and its no secret I suspect, that after some 60 or more years of using Nosler partitions, I am very prejudice on the subject.

Ray without being prejudice lol. how would you compare the nosler partition to the swift a-frame ?

I too like the partitions.
But i really like the .338 win. Whats really cool is that just about any.338 bullet over 200 grains is deady on Elk, just pick one you rifle likes..tj3006

There is no comparison between the RWS H Mantel and the Nosler Partition.

The Nosler is a far superior bullet!

I have cut open many RWS bullets, their jackets are paper thin, and would not use them - if I had a choice - for hunting.

how about the swift a-frame anyone?

I just got back from Zimbabwe on a cull hunt. I shot 30-06 with 180 grain a-frames for zebra and wildebeest. Worked perfectly. Great penetration. All of the bullets except one looked like a magazine ad. Had one that did not expand for some reason. However, it penetrated all the way from the shoulder and broke the pelvis of a wildebeest. I think they are quite a bit stronger than a partition. In fact, too strong for impala. I shot some with a-frames and they punched neat .308 holes thru the impala.

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Originally posted by Tanoose:
how about the swift a-frame anyone?

About as good as it gets for buffalo. You can count on 2X expansion and usually 100% weight retention with a bullet sitting under the buff's hide on the far side. There are ample visual and audible indicators of hits.

Much of what people regard as good or perfect bullet performance is a matter of opinion, and sometimes whatever the ad-man tells them is optimum. If the above is what you want, you'll get it with an A-Frame so regularly that its boring.

On smaller game I've never managed to stop an A-Frame so any guesses as to weight rendition or expansion level would be just guesses. They act exactly like what you would expect from a sturdy controlled expansion bullet and rip a fair wound channel, that is smaller than a bomb going off. Lighter game can often be killed faster with softer bullets that shed some weight, or even all of it. Blowing the front off like a Partition works pretty well. Half varmint bullet and half solid just in case the varmint end didn't take care of it.

The 210 NP has a very good reputation from a .338 WM, and perhaps from a .338-06 also. I saw it used on a very good black bear over one of my baits at 95 yards by a friend of mine.

I never personally used it because I favoured 250's in my .338's and .340 WBY. I put down a nice bull moose at 165 yards using the 250 NP from my .340 with an MV of 3000 fps. The first was broadside and passed through the chest tight behind the shoulders, spraying the bushes with blood and lung tissue. As he started to swing away from me (he would not have gone far) I put another into the short ribs which stopped on the far side 3" from the first exit wound. My son approached the downed moose too soon and it stood up, but was very unsteady. I put a third into the seat of its pants and it went down to stay. That bullet was found by the butcher in the front part of the chest cavity. It penetrated the full length of the body -- at least 6 feet! My son retrieved the 2nd bullet -- it was a lump under the skin. Both retrieved bullets worked like NPs, 71% retention.

Two years ago I shot a medium 6ft bl. bear frontally with a 286 NP from my 9.3 X 62. Range was 68 yards and impact 2510 fps. The bear went 20 yds and fell down an escarpment. The bullet was retrieved in skinning just in front the the right hip. Penetration was about 3 feet and, again, weight was 71%.

This year I switched to the 250 AB at about 2715 from my 9.3 X 62. A good bear, heavier than the one mentioned, but a 6-footer (7 feet standing) was taken at 85 yards. The 250 AB hit mid-chest, angled diagonally thru chest, pulverized the heart and made exit just behind opposite front leg. Entrance took out one rib and exit two ribs. Hole in hide on entry was little more than caliber size and exit about nickle-size through hide. Holes in rib cage were about 1-inch on entry and 2 on exit. The bear went 20 yards and the blood trail looked like it was laid by a bucket!

I'm impressed with that 250 Accubond. It made a 2.5" hole thru the barrel behind the bear and was lost in the ground somewhere beyond -- I was shooting from a treestand. The Accubonds in 225gr and 250gr in .338 should be very impressive in results as well.

Bob

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The 210 NP and the 338 win mag make a fantastic combo! The 338 win mag is a great cartridge in general. Congrats on the results. The 250 NP are great as well at approx. 2750 in my 24".

I have used and seen used Nosler Partitions in calibres from 243 to 375, oh and in 44 Magnum as well.

IMHO the Nosler Partition in the right calibre and weight for the game being hunted, is NEVER a wrong choice.

Agreed. Also the 210 NP does have a pretty lethal zap to it