Anyone own one? Likes or dislikes? Thinking of picking one up for my son if we get drawn for Kodiak brownies this spring. Should make a superb moose rifle as well.
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/550CarbineKevlar/

Seems nice on paper, five down, built in scope mounts, short barrel, kevlar stock, and factory iron sights.

Man that's pretty sweet. I wasn't aware they came out with that. I would jump on it if I didn't already have a 550 FS and a 550 American. I bet it will be a great rifle.

Looks like a winner. At 7 lbs. I hope it has a good recoil pad. I reload for my friend's manlicher carbine CZ in 9.3X62 and it shoots the 285 Lapua Mega's like nobody's business. I haven't had any bad experience with the CZ's. I'd say go for it. Good luck on your draws.

Randy,
What do you think we are losing in the velocity department with the short barrels? You know I used yours this last fall on moose to great effect but was wondering how fast the bullet goes.

I know a couple of guys here with chronographs but haven't gotten together with them yet.

Scott,
Have absolutely no idea, lol. But the longer I hunt in Alaska the more I like heavy, slow bullets on the big stuff.

You could juggle powder choices and play with chrono's but any of the 9,3's seem so accurate just about anything works well.

I have a 20" 9.3x62

the load of 58.5 RL-15 and a 286 that everybody seems to like runs at 2350-2375

the load of 61.0 4064 (off the AR page) and a 250 Accubond runs 2550-2575

I wouldn't expect a cartridge like the 9.3x62 to really lose a lot

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Originally posted by Scott King:
Randy,
What do you think we are losing in the velocity department with the short barrels? You know I used yours this last fall on moose to great effect but was wondering how fast the bullet goes.

I know a couple of guys here with chronographs but haven't gotten together with them yet.

The generally accepted rule of thumb is 25-30 fps per inch of barrel lost. But, as mentioned, I think the pressure level loaded to as well as bore diameter and burn rate of powder will all have an small effect.

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Originally posted by Scott King:
Randy,
What do you think we are losing in the velocity department with the short barrels? You know I used yours this last fall on moose to great effect but was wondering how fast the bullet goes.

I know a couple of guys here with chronographs but haven't gotten together with them yet.

Interesting enough, my CZ FS Carbine shoots 286gr. woodleigh's @ 2400fps with the max book load of Varget. I figure I just got lucky and have a fast as well as very accurate barrel. I have two other 9.3X62's A 1929 Mauser w/22" barrel that does 2350fps. And my Ruger Express w/22" barrel does 2400fps also

A 7 lbs rifle in that caliber would become 8 lbs with a scope & mounts & would be just a bit light to shoot! My Simson Mauser 98 is just comfortable to shoot the heavy bullets and it is 8.5 lbs with scope. It pounds a bit with 320 gr Woodleighs but still comfortable enough to shoot accurately or take snap shots.

This new Carbine-Kevlar is nothing more than the 550FS stuck into the new B&C made for CZ Kevlar stock. It should shoot and work the exact same as all the previous 9.3FS models with the exception the new stock is a tad lighter.

I've never experienced a single recoil issue with full house loads from the FS model and I cannot see it being a problem with this new Kevlar rifle at all. In addition, I've never experienced a problem with getting enough velocity from the FS model and this new Kevlar rifle has the exact same barrel.

The rifle was just announced and released at the end of last year. I put in an order with a distributor, but they have yet to receive the rifle from CZ. Not sure how long before I get it in hand.

Best

If you are worried about velocity loss, just use 250 Accubonds. They have a .494 BC and you can push them about 2600 fps. I can't think of anything in NA that it won't kill cleanly.

I have a dumolin 9,3x62 in a kevlar stock. weighs well under 8lbs loaded and scoped.

I love it It is my main rifle - and any rifle that weighs over 8lbs loaded needs to be a double to be worth the weight IMHO

The 9,3 x62 European loads are mostly taylored around the 49cm (19,7") barrels that are so popular, especially as using a supressor is almost maditory in many European hunting situations. Certainly the Norma ammo is always shot in a 50cm (20") barrel

From a reloading point of view, the factory spec 9,3 ammo has to be loaded down (49,000PSI) but in any modern action there is absolutely no reason for a handloader to load it up to .308/.30-06 pressures (55-56,000PSI) and the CZ actions and barrels are all proofed to take magnum loads (65,000PSI) as standard...but 9,3 brass often isn't up to those pressures.

Norma makes a great 325grn Oryx load that is just perfect (2300fps) from a short carbine.

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Norma makes a great 325grn Oryx load that is just perfect (2300fps) from a short carbine.

...any chance norma may offer this in 9,3x74?

Hunter...I doubt it simply becuase of the regulation issues. as has been pointed out on the doubles forum the 9,3's (like .375 FL) are often very forgiving and shoot bullets of widely different weights to a similar point of aim.

still, most european makers now make their doubles (self adjustable) in the smaller cals (like 9,3) so there might be enough demand to prod Norma into loading a run

Most European 9,3 doubles seem to be regulated ither for the plastic point 286grn load or one of the light 232 grn loads as folk don't like the recoil. The heavy 325grn Oryx bullet was made especillly for the scandinavian market where minimising meat damage is a key issue - drop the velocity to reduce bruising and inclease the diamiter the bullet open up to so that it still drops a moose quickly - at leas that was the idea behind it that Kenneth Skoglund explained to me. He will be at SCI so ask him

Randy et al;

The 286 Nosler/ R-15 combo is stupidly accurate in the Ruger I got from Randy and as I posted in the Alaska Forum, deadly. For necropsy purposes only I would like to run the aforementioned load end to end at a closer range on a bull. I'll try to get after the chrono for useless trivia if nothing else, but based on the posts above I can guess the results.

45/70 afficianado's are yesterdays news. The 9.3x62 is the magic cartridge.

If I were going to go with a 20" carbine I would consider the full stock version. It is classier looking IMO.
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-550-fs/

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Originally posted by Captain Finlander:
If I were going to go with a 20" carbine I would consider the full stock version. It is classier looking IMO.
http://cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-550-fs/

Yeah, the only reason I see for using a composite stock is to mate it to a stainless action. Otherwise, that FS is much nicer.

...appreciate your thoughts, ganyana...

I got mine!

9.3 x 62, all steel, FS, CZ Mounts, Swaro 1,25 - 4 x 24.

I am VERY happy!

( perhaps I´ll get an NEGC (?) back up iron sight for it )

Hermann