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I know this is similar to the Accubond vs Interbond question but is there any real difference in performance on medium game under 400lbs? Mainly looking at a 115 NBT vs 117 SST out of a BOB or 150 NBT vs 150 SST out of a 308 win. Looking at the cutaways, the NBT has a much thicker base but the SST has the interlock ring. I've heard many people claim one is tougher than the other. Many think they are just varmint rounds. Just curious what you think. | ||
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I haven't used the Hornady's, so can't make much comment except that the Nosler is usually more accurate in most guns. I have observed through the years that the Nosler B.Tip's solid base provides surprising penetration, a great deal more than many people credit it with. While the front half of the bullet is quite frangible and usually becomes shrapnal in the vitals (not a bad thing), the solid base carries the jacket and a bit of the core quite deep into (or sometimes out of) the animal. I think you'll find either bullet satisfactory, but the first bullet I would try would be the Nosler. If the Hornady shoots well for you, there won't be any flies on its terminal performance in the lighter weight big game like deer & carabou. I use the .25/115 N.B.T. when shooting my .25-06 at deer, and my son has killed truckloads of deer and feral hogs with his .30-06 using exclusively the .30/150 N.B.T. | |||
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SC: just curious, If you haven't used the Hornadies, how can you know that the Noslers are usually more accurate? | |||
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165 gr SST .308 Win @ 2640 This isthe entrance wound. Th exit was a quarter size hole and was, I think, just th core comin out. Th shot was about 50 yds. lmk All alone I came into this world All alone I will someday die Solid stone is just sand and water, baby Sand and water, and a million years gone by | |||
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THe areas I hunt are populated with large numbers of feral hogs. As such they are a plague on the properties which are used for agriculture and livestock. We shoot them on site as do most oflks around. Several years ago we were looking for good accurate bulets to load quantities and came across some blems which were the SST's, so we jumped on them and picked several thousand in the calibers we shoot the most. In the years since, we have taken many hogs, which with the hide and bone structure will put most bullets to the test, with one shot stops. The penetration and expansion are better than the BT, which seem to have more initial damage but less overall penetration. Both makes will do a whitetail or mule deer in fairly equally depending on the shot angle. But for most of our loads, we have come to depend on the SST as a good all around bullet. We run them to top velocity in .277, .284 and .308. Some do experience a seperation but when you hit a 200# boar hog straight on through the shoulder junction, it puts any bullet through the integrity test. Mike / Tx | |||
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I have used both the Nos 140gr BT & the HDY 139gr SST on North Georgia whitetails. Out of a 7mm08 both of these bullets have worked perfectly for me. The BT were being pushed about 2800fps. Knocked them down right there, no tracking. Distance for these shots were fairly close, probably between 30 & 60 yards. This load tunred out to be a little on the warm side for my rifle so I decided to work up my own load with the HDY SST. I achieved the best accuracy out of my rifle at a little over 2400fps. The next two deer I took with this load were knocked down in their track & did not run off, one was DRT. One was shot at about 30 yards & the other was at about 75 yards. I cannot complain about the performance of either of these bullets. They have worked perfectly for me. | |||
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I just worked up a load for my 6.5x284 with the 140 grain Hornady SST for a Texas deer/pig hunt next month. Here's the 5 shot group that I shot this morning. It's hard to believe that the Noslers could be more accurate. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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I am not a big fan of poly tipped bullets for game (excluding the bonded ones, for which i have no experience). I think BTs are too soft across the board, particularly in smaller calibers. I load 165 sst bullets for my cousin's 30-06. He says they are pure hell on alabama whitetails. Then again, I shoot deer with 140 6.5 amax bullets, but at less than 2600 fps. Both bullets expand. a lot. I would rather roll with a hornady spire point on deer. | |||
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That is some nice shooting. I haven't found the right load for my SST in 308 yet. I'm still working on it. My 308 loves the 155 Sierra Matchkings. If they were a big game bullet, I'd be good. | |||
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My match load (I shoot 1,000 yard matches with this rifle) is the 142 grain SMK. This load hits 2" higher than the Match load's 100 yard zero. Frank "I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money." - Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953 NRA Life, SAF Life, CRPA Life, DRSS lite | |||
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"I haven't used the Hornady's, so can't make much comment except that the Nosler is usually more accurate in most guns." I might clarify by saying that I haven't used these particular Hornady bullets, but I have used many Hornaday (and Nosler, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Herter, etc.) bullets in 44 years of handloading. Taken as a whole, the Noslers are usually more accurate than the Hornady's. This is not true in every case, and the pictured group in Fjold's post shows that a Hornady bullet can be exceedingly accurate. But in more cases than not, a given Nosler will produce better accuracy than a given Hornady. Okay? | |||
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I find little difference in accuracy between the two. Both are superbly accurate in most of my guns. However I use more SST bullets than BTs because of the interlock and the cannelure of the SST. It seems to give them a tad more penetration! | |||
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There is ABSOLUTLY no comparison between the BT'S and the SST'S. In .277, and .264, in the rifles I own, the SST'S gave woefull groups, while the BT'S were one hole, or close to it. Not a large sampling, but I gave the SST'S too some of my buddies, and they had the same experience as me. I don't own a rifle, 22 to 37 cal,that if a BT is available for it, they won't give outstanding accuracy!! Jerry NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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I have used a bunch of 150 gr. 7MM BT's to greatly satisfactory results. The only Hornady SST's I have used were 180 gr. 30 caliber bullets and these also worked satisfactorily causing dead deer and hogs. Personally the best weight for either is the heaviest offered in the diameter you need. Leftists are intellectually vacant, but there is no greater pleasure than tormenting the irrational. | |||
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