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After much research, I finally took the plunge and bought a CZ550 American in 9.3x62, and picked it up from the local gun shop yesterday. I must say that I am very pleased with the rifle. It handles very well, and the Leupold VXIII 1.5x to 5x that I mounted on it last night looks like it belongs there. I was quite surprised with the figure in the stock, and I had hoped to post a picture of it here, but my lack of skills with the digital camera prohibited me from doing so. It must be one of the newer versions of the American series, as it has the "push forward to fire" safety and two recoil bolts. The pull of the trigger with no adjustment is only slightly heavier than the 2.5 pound pull trigger on my Remington Model Seven, and the set trigger trips very easily. RCBS dies, 100 pieces of Norma brass and 50 Speer 270 grain bullets should arrive sometime next week, and I hope to send some rounds out at the NRA range next Friday. I know some of you 9.3 fans scoff at the Speer 270, but since these will just be for punching holes in paper for now, that is what I will go with. I do have reloading data from the Speer and Barnes #2 manuals, but no other source. If someone would not mind posting some of their data for the 250 and 286 grain Noslers, or the 320 grain Woodleighs (Mr. Atkinson), especially with Reloader15 or IMR4064, or another powder, it would be greatly appreciated. Down the road, I would like to have the barrel free floated, the action smoothed and pillar bedded, and Talley QD bases with the Brockmans Gunsmithing pop-up peep sight installed. But that will have to wait until I have shot the rifle quite a bit. I would like to thank the promoters of the 9.3x62 and the CZ550 on this forum, because without their praise, information and feedback, I would never have known about this cartridge or rifle. Cheers... | ||
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Did you get one of the manlicher stocked ones? I handled one at a local gun shop, and just may be a 9.3X62 convert in the future, very nice gun! | |||
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jreb...I also took possesion of a new 550 American a couple of weeks ago. I am in the process of compiling a long list of suitable powders, loads, bullets, etc. for this caliber. I shoot 3 different JDJ calibers in my Contender but for some reason (maybe my future African trip with rifle and handgun?) I am on a mission with this caliber. I will get with you over the next few weeks and let you know how things work out. I am planning on using data from Mr. Atkinson, Pygmy, and a few others that post here as well as going "outside the box" with some newer powders. My goal is to find a temp insensitive, clean burning, fast and accurate load for the 250 NBT and the 286 Part. That's my start. See ya. Gary. | |||
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That sounds like a neat rifle. I wasn't aware that the 9.3's came crossbolted. I'm thinking about getting one myself but I haven't ponied up for it yet. Be sure to post when you shoot it. Anyone know what the 9.3X62 in the Lux model should run $ ? | ||
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About $550 here in Central FL. | |||
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550 FS - $499.99 http://www.impactguns.com/store/cz_550FS.HTML ------------------ | ||
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Just picked up my 550 American in 9.3x62. From appearances, WHAT A BARGAIN ($450.00 delivered to my FFL guy, and that includes a set of rings). The thing is really well fitted, and the stock has some nice figure to it. The factory target shows 3 shots in under an inch. I can hardly wait to get it scoped up and out to the range. It came from The Gun Shop http://pdmall.com/CZC/cz~1.htm in Atlanta. I�d check his prices on any of the CZ�s before buying elsewhere. R-WEST ------------------ | |||
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My CZ 550 Medium 9.3x62 is the full stocked model. Wandering at three shot groups was not noticeable. I will have to glue and screw or swear TIGHT that scope, but I hope for under 1" after first experiences ( with no tinkering! We are talkin European guns there! ) The 9.3x62 is gaining in popularity in Europe! It seems to be the ideal Red stag/Boar/Moose caliber! Only drawback is that beyond 225 m the bullet drops like dead! Anybody wanting Mannlicher stocks consider CZ or Steyr! Hermann ------------------ | |||
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My Dealer Has CZ550 Americans for $419 w/rings. Maybe I should buy one. Sean [This message has been edited by LoneEagle (edited 04-23-2002).] | |||
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Sure Thing. www.villagegun.com This store is in Whitefield, NH. I believe the phone# is on his website. Sean | |||
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The dies, brass and bullets arrived from Midway yesterday, and I rolled 20 cartridges to take to the range on Friday. I used 56 grains of IMR4064 over a Winchester Large Rifle primer underneath the Speer 270 grain semi spitzer. COL is 3.28". That load is from the Speer manual. Those 270 grain bullets are BIG. The largest bullet I have ever loaded into anything before is 180 grains for my 30-06, and compared to those, these 270s are huge. I can't imagine what a 320 grain Woodleigh would look like. I will be at the NRA range Friday to see how the rifle likes these loads... | |||
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johnnyreb - What brass did you get? Midway didn't have any when I was looking for it, and I ended up getting Lapua from Huntington's. Quality stuff, but, a little pricey ($67/100). I have some 270 Speers and 250 Nosler B-Tips loaded up, and some 232 Norma Oryx's are on the way from Graf's. Looks like you'll beat me to the range by a day, unless the wind quits and I can sneak out of here. Let us know how it does. Speaking of big bullets, I was loading up a batch of 350 grain 416 RMAG's during the same loading session as the 9.3x62's. Really impressive!! R-WEST ------------------ [This message has been edited by R-WEST (edited 04-23-2002).] | |||
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Widener's has Norma brass for the 9.3x62 at a pretty good price | |||
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R-West, I ordered the brass last week over their web page, which usually states whether the item in question is in stock or not. I usually get brass and dies from Midsouth, but they were out of both 9.3x62 Lapua brass and RCBS dies, so I went with Midway. The reasom I am using IMR4064 is that I already have 2+ pounds on hand, and my Speer manual lists it as having pretty good velocity (I loaded 56 grains, with 58.0 being max). When I picked up the rifle I also got a pound of RL15, but all of the loads I have seen using that powder are for bullets that I don't have yet. I will be trying others in the future, but for now the Speer 270s will be fine. I may beat to the reange by a day, but the NRA range is only 50 yards indoor, so I won't know what the rile is capable of at 100... | |||
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R-West, I forgot to mention that I received Norma brass... | |||
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johnnyreb...The 4064 works well in my rifle for both the 270 Speer and the 250 Nosler and Barnes... my rilfe groups BEST with RL-15 and 250 Barnes X bullets, but delivers good hunting accuracy with 4064 in the bullet weights i have tried...I have not loaded anything heavier than the 270 Speer... Good luck and have fun with your new toy... | ||
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Pygmy, what is your cleaning procedure when using the Barnes X bullets? I have never used them before, but have heard of some problems due to excessive bore fouling. I would like to try their bullets, but I would like to hear firsthand about cleaning a bore after using the X bullets... | |||
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johnnyreb - Sorry Pygmy for jumping in front of you When I use the Barnes X's, I usually fight the fouling with Barnes CR10 or Sweets 7.62, a plastic bore brush and follow up with JB Bore Paste. Takes a while but cleans 'em up. I'm trying two new, REALLY ammoniated cleaners, one from Bore Tech and another one from Tetra Gun, that seem to work faster than the other ones, but, are pretty smelly. Gotta keep the windows open with them. Let me know how the Norma brass works out - I'd heard it was a little soft and stretched a good bit. BTW - on the subject of bore cleaners, I'm always fighting with lead in the bores of my handguns, and the other night while I was moving a jar of Hoppe's Bench Rest solvent out of the way, I noticed it said on the label that it removes lead. So, I figured, what the heck, and gave it a whirl. It really works. In case anyone's interested. R-WEST | |||
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Use "Wipe-Out". There are a few posts here about the product...does everything it claims and more. Unbelievable stuff...and it doesn't smell like a perm!!!! It will clean everything to the bone. By the way, my initial trip to the range with the CZ showed the 286 gr Partition over 58 gr of RL-15 to be just under 2400 fps with 5 shots under 1". Not bad for its maiden voyage! Gary. | |||
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Gary, where did you get Wipe Out ? I want to try it. Did you buy local or thru the mail. Thanks......eric | |||
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I avoided trying Barnes X bullets in the past because of tales of poor accuracy and copper fouling... I tried the 250 X in my 9.3 at the suggestion of my friend John Campbell and it was a pleasant surprise... The bore cleans very quickly with a few patches and some Shooter's Choice copper solvent...My CZ 550 in 9.3 x 62 cleans up MUCH easier after shooting X bullets than either my Win M70 in .280 or my Rem 700 in 7mm-08 shooting Noslers.. I'm only guessing at the reason for this, but I suspect it may be simply because the bore and rifling are smoother, plus maybe the fact that velocities are lower... | ||
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If you want a real treat...Garby is on top of it. Wipeout is the only brushless bore cleaner that I know of. It really dissolves copper, and carbon without brushing. But maost of all......no complaints from my wife or the kids. The stuff is oderless! You can get it at www.sharpshootr.com What's the biggest difference between a 602 and a 550 action ? | ||
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eric......try sharpshootr.com. If you call them you can talk to thee man. He is the most straight forward, no BS guy that I have dealt with. The stuff costs about $10 a can and should be good for about 50-60 cleanings. It works EXACTLY like it says....so good that I'm going to give X-Bullets another try! Whats that tell ya? I have been working on some loads for the CZ 9.3. So far the gun has a love affair with the Nosler 286 gr Partitions and RL-15...about 2400 fps and 5 shots in an inch. I'm playing with the 250 gr BT's right now. I'll let you know. Now I need to get some X's since I found Wipe-Out! Take care. Gary. | |||
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A good buddy whacked a 5-pt whitetail this last season with a 9.3x62 Steyr SBS. Load was 270 Speer over some quantity of RL-15. The deer dropped at the shot, with the bullet app[arently breaking the neck after passing through the shoulder. The exit hole was rather small, but the neck/spine is hard on bullets. based on this one isolated incident, I would certainly choose other bullets for bigger things. Next trip the 9.3x62 gets 250 grain B-Tips, but my bud has a .358 that needs blooded first. I have read several glowing reports of the 250 Barnes-X, both in the accuracy and game killing departments. Bigiron | |||
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