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My buddies and I have been using Accubond Long Range bullets on mule deer over the past couple of years. 7mm, 300 WM, and 6.5x284. In each instance we ended up with a dead deer but none of the bullets exited and little to no blood trail was evident. Ranges were from 150 yds to 390 yards. Fortunately the deer did not go far but if they did tracking would have been nearly impossible. Huge pools of blood were evident during field dressing. Are any other hunters seeing this type of performance? | ||
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Nope, two cow elk, both with exit wounds, both only went 30 yards but very adequate blood trails. 300 wsm shots were 250 and 300 yds. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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The Nosler Accubond seems to be designed to open into a larger frontal mass that some other bullets. If you want more penetration, try the Nosler Partition. I am currently loading Nosler ABs and Remington CoreLokt Ultras in 140 grain in my 7mm RM for Couses deer here in AZ. I may end up going with Ballistic Tip bullets to get a bullet light enough to open reliably at longer ranges. These deer weigh less than 120 lbs. on the hoof, about half the size of a big mule deer. | |||
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My kids and I have shot several WT’s with 140 grain Accubonds and ABLR’s from a 6.5CM. Standard Accubonds have opened reliably and given complete penetration with a reasonable size exit wound. Flawless performance on all deer shot from 15 yards to 320 yards. I’ve never seen a bullet produce more blood shot damaged meat then the Accubond Long Range. All deer shot with a BLR’s died quick enough, with no exit wound and had a complete halo of blood shot meet the entire circumference of the chest cavity. If I were shooting deer at true long range, 600+ yards, this would be my bullet of choice. All deer we shot with them were from 7 yards to 380 yards. They all died but it’s far from ideal in that application. All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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The Accubond and Accubond LR are different bullets. Section one and see how thin the jacket on the LR is compared to the old Accubond. I consider the LR as a target bullet and the old Accubond one of the best "hunting" bullets currently on the market. I prefer the old Accubond to the Partition in how they perform on game animals. Pancho LTC, USA, RET "Participating in a gun buy-back program because you think that criminals have too many guns is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids." Clint Eastwood Give me Liberty or give me Corona. | |||
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Just right after the ABLR ccame out I used it on a plainsgame hunt in Africa. Warthogs, springboks and impalas. No exits...but pollaxing animals. Caliber was .270wea. Loaded up to full thrust. DRSS: HQ Scandinavia. Chapters in Sweden & Norway | |||
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Pancho is right. Don't confuse the AB with the ABLR. Two very different bullets. I shot my best mule deer with a 300 WM and a 180 AB at 375 yards. full penetration and a 1 inch exit. DRT. I don't see the need for the ABLR. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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the new batch of "Long range" bullets are made softer due to the loss of velocity at long ranges and that is what your dealing with as the bullets are expending all their energy at those long ranges and expanding, and that expansion is penetrations worst enemy.. If you use the standard Accubond or perhaps the partition would be better you will get more penetration, but at those extended ranges I don't really trust any bullet to give an exit hole, and give particularly quick kills with any reliability as a matter of fact. Ive witnessed a number of long range shot animals make some lengthy tracks with a good hit, so you have been lucky so far,but at those ranges you can normally watch those animals until they flop over it seems..Im not into long range shooting and have only witnessed it..Maybe one of these days I'll give it a try..However Ive shot two elk at about 375 yards to 400 yards the last couple of years with 200 gr. accubonds in my 30-06 and broadside, got a quarter size exit hole on both, lung and heart shots, one dropped at the shot and the other ran about 75 yards and required a finisher, not much of a blood trail but would have been enough to follow as it was open country..I like the accubond bullets but never used the LR.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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At the ranges posted by the OP I would say almost any bullet will work well from the that list of calibers. Most bullets even Flat based will work well at 300yds and hold together to get pass throughs. I like Sierra Game Kings and their newer Game Changer (tipped game king). They have very high BCs and work well out to longer ranges. | |||
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So what is the issue? That you didn't get the extra thrill of tracking an animal a half-mile? Properly expanding bullets may or may not fully penetrate a game animal, depending on a number of variables. The issue is not whether the bullet penetrated, but how much trauma it inflicted on the target -- after all, it is only trauma (damage to vital organs/systems) that kills. No animal has ever suffered organ damage after the bullet exited its body. | |||
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Its all about bullet construction, impact velosity and shot placement  | |||
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