The March issue of RifleShooter has article on the 6.8mm Rem SPC.



The author uses a custom CZ 527 with a 22" barrel.

He is shown with a 200+ lb. Mule deer he had shot at 75 yds. and claims the deer was killed as quick as any he has ever shot. The article also shows a picture of the round.



It sort of favors the 7mm TCU in size. He goes on to say that he was getting 2,971 fps with the Hornady 110 V-Max.

That is hard to believe ? Such a small case with .257 Roberts speed. It really must be an efficient cartridge.

He goes on to mention that Remington is expected to bring out the 6.8 Rem. in some of there bolt actions. One rumor is a tactical heavy barrel and possible Model Seven.



I e-mailed Remington Feb 4th.

(customer) - Is Remington going to offer any bolt action rifles for the 6.8 Rem SPC ? Model Seven or the 700 LV SF ?

I'm sure alot of folks would be intersted in this round in a small lightweight rifle.



(response) - Thank you for your interest with our products.

We do not have immediate plans to offer a rifle for the 6.8mm Remington SPC. We have recieved several suggestions similar to yours and appreciate you taking the time to wright in. We routinely foreward all suggestions to our marketing dept for review. Customer feedback allows us to understand customer perception of our products. The greater number of suggestions for a particular issue, the greater the likelihod of implementing the suggestion. -Remington.



So if any of you are interested e-mail Remington and let them know what you wont.



I figure it will make a nice (light) target rifle that you could sit at the bench and fire 40-50 rounds ( without knocking your teeth out )and still have the power for medium range deer hunting.



We will probably find out something this week from the Shot Show what Remington has planned for this cartridge.

I read that report too, which got me to thinking (usually followed by an exodus of dollars) that the M7 I have that's a 7 TCU would make a really nice 6.8!! Open the boltface to handle the 6.8's 0.416" head and, voila`.

Wonder why they'd go to all the trouble of coming up with a new round, then not offer a rifle for it? The M7 seems like a perfect fit, to me anyway.

R-WEST

I have read that the 6.8 is a GI project. Seems the .223 wasn't getting the job done. This info is heresay so don't flame the messenger if you've heard different.

Just passing this thread along, http://64.177.53.248/ubb/Forum78/HTML/000512.html,but it has got a bunch of info and then some - some of which is just carping back and forth between the posters. Never seen that around here.

I think this new round begs for a mini mauser type rifle and the Ruger Ranch Rifle.

I guess that is the same link as above. Sorry for cluttering the thread.

This cartridge would indeed be handy in a light woods rifle be it blot, pump, lever or single action. And maybe 80 yrs. ago it would have been a commercial success. If one of the major gun companies brings it out after the military desides to use it,than,it will enjoy a brief flury of sales. I have designed built and used a very similar round and in all honesty it's performance barely exceeds that of the 30/30. There really is no gap that this poorly conceived military round fits.That goes for commercial as well as military.
Why would you think that this is an "interesting cartridge?" It would be interesting if we were going to use it in a rifle similar to an AK 47. That's what many of or guys in Viet Nam used when they could pick them up and had the ammo.

As far as being "delightfull for white tails" We have more than a dozen cartridges that already fit that NEED.

"hope remington makes it in a mod.7" 70 years from now they will be collecters items. Those that haven't been rebarreled.

"I'm sure a lot of folks would be interested." They should be more interested how much of our tax dollars have been wasted on this do nothing government bundogle.

When you compare every U.S.military small arms cartridge we've had in use for the last 65 years to the m43(7.62mm X39mm)[ for one] OUR responsible military people look like they've been playing with less than a full deck.The only exception in my mind is the .45ACP. The 06 is a great cartridge but too big and bulky for a foot sldier to use. Now that'S my not too humble opinion. roger

R-West,

What kind of velocity are you getting from the 7mm TCU out of your Model Seven ?

There's an article about the development of the 6.8x43 in the latest SOF magazine. I've heard that the Special Forces complained of lack of penetration against Taliban fighters in
Afghanistan all bundled up at high altitudes with the SS109 (62-63 gr.) round and also had problems with an interim 77 gr. loading. It seems the enemy learned to stay just out of effective range and use RPGs from 500 - 600 yards. These guys were using 14.5" & 16" M4 carbines which gave up some velocity compared to the 20" barrels. The reports indicated center of mass hits without incapacitating their opponent who kept slinging those slow 7.62x39 bullets into our guys. After all the hoopla over the problems in Viet Nam, you'd think the Ordinance boys would have it worked out by now? When the US forced Nato to adopt the .308 cartridge, the Brits were supposedly developing a 7mm intermediate round for an assault rifle. Here we are 50 years later revisiting the same issue! It makes you think.
I'm playing with a 6x45mm AR-15 upper. This cartridge was a benchrest wannabe but everyone went with the PPC as it was more accurate. It shoots pretty flat, but I haven't run it over the chrono yet. However, it should be a fun little coyote and small deer round.

I have read several articles on this round and have been following it with some interest.

It does add some needed horsepower to the M 16s, for field use. They have been playing with that concept since the rifle was fielded.

Like any military round, it will migrate into hunting applications if sales can be realized, by the manufacture to help recoup developemental and initial tooling costs.

I can see a spot for the round. Even though I am a handloader, I was impressed when I picked up a new 2004 Remington catalog and they are now carrying FACTORY downloaded ammo. Marketing it as for recoil sensitive shooters. Under this concept, where all shooters do not need to go in the field with a 500 yrd cartridge with the power to down an elk at that distance, to reliably take a deer at 50 to 100 yds. Since 90 % of all deer are taken at 100 yds or less ( make it 150 for the skeptics), This new round has more than enough juice to reliably take a deer, when the round is put in the right place.

Deer are not bullet proof despite the thoughts of some people in this world. I am not a Remington fan, but I applaud their taking this direction. The Ultra Mag, and Their Short Ultra Mag, are becoming a flop for them it seems. The opposite direction might just be a good marketing maneuver, to out flank Winchester and their Super Short Magnum BS now.

I think in a Model 7, it will be a nice ticket for a kid. Less ommph that a 7/08, but more than a 243.

Heaven forbid we have a swing back, to the old concept of efficient cartridges once again!! What blasmaphey that would be!!!

They re-invented the 25 Remington.

Ive read the articles in the recent rags and a 6.8mm 115 grain pill doesnt impress me too much either. Somalia was another bad campaign for the 5.56....but thats another story. For the life of me I cant imagine why Rem or the US mil. would not go with a 6.5 to take advantage of the high bc stuff already available. for down range efficiency. Now the 6.5 Grendel..that is an interesting round.

This reminds me most of the 7mm Waters.
Just .007" smaller, and rimless, right?

If I recall, the Rifleshooter article said that this round will work on an M16 "platform". If so, does that mean that a new/modified bolt, a rebarrel job, and a different magazine will convert a garden variety M16 into an M(??)6.8SPC. Conversions at the arsenal level would be relativly cheap, I'm sure.

That is about on par with a 250-3000 and I have always liked that one..I have killed elk with a simulair load of 117 gr. bullet at 2600 FPS...That's a lot more than a 25 Remington or 25-35 Win. and I have shot elk with the 25-35 with good results...

Might be a great little cartridge and remember with a solid military bullet it will have good ranging qualities and good wounding potential and wounding is better than killing as it take a couple of the enemy out to care for the wounded one...

It sure beats the hell out of the 223 and in the same size rifle with about the same felt recoil to most....I like the idea myself, it has the potential of a lot of power in a small package with portable ammo size.....