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i hear this expression quite often, and would like to know what it means. is it just a flatshooting rifle or are there caliber restrictons, certain types of game, etc. i have a .300wby who is intended mainly for big game hunting in open country, can i call this a beanfield rifle? | ||
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........You sure can Steffen .,.,Soybean fields are Huge sections of God,s green earth .,..,And sometimes white tail deer are way out on these flat fields so approaching them closley is not genrally possible .............Kenny Jarret popularized the BeanField rifle and he builds super accurate long ish range hunting rifles for the smaller species of North American big game .......I may be mistaken but I think the 300 Jarret is very simular to the 300 Whby and 300 Ackley Mag ..Ect ect ect ect ............. .If it can,t be grown , its gotta be mined .... | |||
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I may be wrong but I consider a bean field rifle simalar to the varmint special rifle. Heavy barrel, good trigger and nice scope. The rifle shoots very accurate and is chambered in a caliber capable of taking white tail out to further than average shots. I have a 300 weatherby as well but consider my 270 sendero more of a bean field rifle because of the heavier barrel. May be wrong but this is my thoughts. Keep yer powder dry and yer knife sharp. | |||
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Bean fields are a "mid range" (300-800 meter) shots, normaly made from a pre-built stand or blind (tower if you prefer). The ground is mainly flat, and cover is non-existant, and the normal deer activity hours would be during the twilight transation. It's not so much the cartridge that makes a "bean field" gun, but the accuracy of the rifle and range determining abilities of the shooter (nothing shoots "flat" over those ranges). I hunt over mowed hay fields, and the conditions are very similar, flat open land with a low crop height. Game can enter the field from any point around the field. | |||
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I have an early Jarett beam field rifle with a 3# barrel, In the early days before he started market segmentation all his rifles were bean field rifles. | |||
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Steffen: As Oakie mentioned, the Remington Model 700 Sendero, is the "factory" Bean Field Rifle. Heavy varmint, as other s have mentioned, would also suffice. Like Oakie, I also have a 26" Sendero in 270 Winchester, and if I can hold on it, at just about any range, I can hit it with authority. Jerry NRA Benefactor Life Member | |||
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It's more hunting "medium game" across open agricultural fields. The attraction to hunting in a "beanfield" situation is that multiple game trails can be kept under observation while deer hunting is USUALLY close range, "beanfield" hunting requires a different strategy and different rifle. Where hunting deer along a game trail in the woods can be done with a bow and arrow expecting shots 15yards most people who are realistic about "woods" hunting and compromise the power and range of their hunting rifle for quicker handling and/or target aquisition for the common closer shots, frequently inside 30yards. in "Beanfield" hunting the deer can be almost anywhere in a large field within the limits of the size of the field... Depending on the size of a field you can have a shot at ANY distance, but the general idea is to set yourself up at a corner or halfway along whichever side is a)most accessable without disturbing the game and b) has a field of view to the most game trails into the field in question. (preferably both) I agree with most of the above, a "beanfield rifle" is a rifle that can put a deer capable bullet on target to ATLEAST 400yards. My personal "beanfield" rifle was a 25-06 Sendero, but I guess I shot too many chuck loads through it because accuracy was starting to go "off" so I replaced it with a heavy barreled 7mmMag, the idea being to "out 25-06 the 25-06" without dealing with rediculous recoil, expense or short service life. the other part of "Beanfield rifle" is how it's loaded, the idea being a Varmint rifle in a deer caliber and velocity with a relatively light controlled expansion bullet is king. a 120gr Tipped-TSX out of a heavy barreled 7mmMag at ~3550fps is hard to beat when playing this game, though a 100gr partition in a 25-06 (or 257Wby) or a 125partition in a 264Win will do just as well, as well as more traditional calibers in a sufficiently accurate rifle. Then again in the "different strokes for different folks" my brother has a 30-378wby... in which he wanted to load 150gr partitions at ~3500fps, but the rifle seems to prefer 165gr bullets at a more pedestrian 3400fps  (and I was "happy" with 2980 for the same bullet from my 30-06) Remember that in "Beanfield hunting" you are planning on killing a DEER (mabey a pronghorn Antelope) not a rhino, so heavy bullets designed for killing elk (or moose) aren't going to get assigned a place on the dance card for this cotillion.... Lastly, high powered optics, because you need to see it to hit it and to precisely place your shot. All in all the rifles used for antelope on the sage flats of the western states are pretty much designed for the same basic conditions as eastern "beanfield" hunting for whitetail deer. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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All this time I thought it was an empty rifle one used to bean their hunting partner with !. After he spooked that Non Typical BC record holder !.  Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ...  | |||
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In the area of colorado I've most hunted there is a lot of dry farming, beans. We didn't know at the time there was such a thing as bean field rifle per sey. South of Monterose is Red Mountain. While all the California and Texas hunters would head up the mountain before day break we would cut off into the pinions and cedars that bordered the bean fields at the base of the mountain. We would set up with a good rest overlooking the fields and drink coffee and tell lies till sun up. When you could see good enough you'd usually find one or two groups of MULE deer on the edge or to the middle of the field. Most of us scored and were into Monterose haveing breakfast at a diner before too long.  Bean field hunting? I think so.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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That about sums it up  Here in Oz we shoot 'roos at very long range. Excellent vertical targets.  Rifle/calibers I've seen used include; 22/243, 257Wby, 25/300WM, 264WM, 7mmSTW, 300WM, 7mmRUM, 300 RUM with a 1:12 twist barrel and Nightforce scope. Most carried Rem' Varmint contour type barrels and had match triggers. Longest shot, I've seen on a 'roo was made by "Larbo" using my 264 WM with a 3.5-15X50 NSX scope and a 100 BT. Range was 1142 yards.....off a bipod!  Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!! Blair. | |||
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I just talked to a " Real Farmer " last night . He's a friend who owns & works Imperial County Agg. property . He has a Beanfield set up . A .22 and .410 OU Savage , he carries it every day . So am I supposed to belief all of You ?, or my Buddy who I sold that Savage to !. ??. Seriously now it's kind of like a Mountain Rifle isn't it ?. What ever caliber one shoots 0-600 Yd. with Right . Bartsche ; Like wise , Cortez Mayday Durango Mule & Elk . Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ... | |||
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The term "Beanfield Rifle" originated in the South for rifles used in stands overlooking Soybean fields. Jarrett made his reputation building .280 Ackley and .300 Win Mag rifles for shooting bucks entering the fields at last light. Mine is fairly typical of that stock: Remington 700, McMillan stock, #4 SS in .280AI crowned at 25", VariX-III 4.5-14x50AO. | |||
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No... "mountain rifles" are tyically geared to be as light as possible with very slender barrel profiles thinned out stock forends and in extreem cases foam filled kevlar stocks etc... and will typically be chambered in cartridges like 270win, 280Rem, 25-06, or the smaller bore magnums, 6.5 or 7mm. The basic idea being a lightweight rifle that can be carried easily. And any "Restrictions" on caliber is a function of the rifle's lightweight build and subsequent recoil. While a "beanfield rifle" might well have a varmint profile barrel and will typically be chambered in a medium bore like 7mm or 30caliber And carrying weight is the opposite of an "issue" and to some degree heavier is better as is accuracy on the first shot from a clean bore, because it is extreemly unlikely there will be a second shot. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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i own two farms in the south, both of which produce rice, soybeans, and wheat. while most think of a beanfield rifle as having a heavy/varmint barrel, this is not necessarily so. my beanfield rifle is a rem 700ss in 270 win. a farmer friend has a sendero in 300 win mag. actually a beanfield rifles is any rifle used that is capable of taking a deer across the field. at one time i had a sendero in 300 win mag, and it did a great job on deer across the field, but i eventually found that my standard 270 win accomplished the same tasks, just as easily. one more thing - when the rut is on it pays to stay in the stand all day. i have taken many bucks between 1100 and 1400 as they searched for the girls. | |||
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LB GUY ; Thank You for making my point !. ANY RIFLE capable of shooting accurately across the field or the side of a mountain !. Although a Mountain Rifle is built light it serves the SAME PURPOSE ,ACCURATE ,DEPENDABLE with Umph to knock down what ever ones shooting at !. Allan Degroot ; You left out SEVERAL other calibers including .30 cal .300 WSM .338 aren't Mountain , Beanfield Rifles ?. No body told me !. I guess they also forgot to inform me as to the inaccuracy of my light Mountain Rifles !. After all when I spend a 3-7 days above timberline on 70% + slopes , I'm just going to have to empty the magazine at those Dahl Rams . Because we all know how stupid they are and stand still until one hits them RIGHT !. If you ever get within 500 yd of one consider yourself VERY LUCKY !. I think their Eye sight is near an Eagles because they can detect movement far better than any Antelope I've EVER HUNTED !. Shoot Straight Know Your Target . ... | |||
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Interesting topic. When is a beanfield rifle a long range hunting rifle From my time at LRH it seemed to me that there were 3 camps of long range shooters and their tools. Beanfield rifle - heavy, high velocity not very specialist glass. Long range hunting rig - 308 or 6.5x284. Velocity much less of an issue. High BC from VLDs paramount in softish shooting calibre allowing large amounts of practice without undue barrel wear. Glass paramount mounted in canted rings to get required elevation MUST have dial ups. Range finding and wind measurement may be confirmed by a first shot just off target to check point of impact. Serious Wildcat Long range hunting rig - generaly owned by someone who has graduated from the second category. Massive wildcats such as 300tomahawk mated to the long range hunting rig. | |||
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"Serious Wildcat Long-Range Hunting Rig" moves you into the "shooter" category. When you start into 30" barrels bedded to the stock with a barrel block and intended ranges that necessitate the use of a bench you become a shooter. So, when using a rifle you can carry as you hunt and employ from a field position, which limits you to shots this side of sane for a practiced rifleman, then a "Beanfield Rifle" is a long range gun. | |||
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And all of this time, I thought it was for shooting Beans!  of course we all see guys at the range all the time that can't shoot 'worth beans'.... they usually look just like...  Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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I checked Kenny's web site & he no longer list a beanfield rifle, this is John Lewis's site which does list a Beanfield rifle & description. As most of you know John actually built Kenny's first 500 ro so rifles. http://www.cprifles.com/custrifles.html#Custom%20Hunter I hunt across the river from Cowden, Kenny's place, there are easliy 20 Jarett/Lewis rifles in our club none have a heavier than 4# barrel. The most common scope is a Leupold VXIII in 3.5x10.. My big field rifle is a Lewis m70 270 Lilja #3 barrel in a Miller Laminated stock with a Varix111 3.5x10 ill. | |||
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It isn't about function, it's about philosophy and execution. a mountain rifle is generally a Lightweight rifle designed to be CARRIED. a "beanfield rifle" resembles a Remington Sendero, Weatherby Accumark or similar. Beanfeld means LONG tubes (or atleast nobody whining about snagging a 26" barrel on brush), heavy optional.... but prefered. The only concession a "beanfield" rifle shooter might make to carrying is a wider sling to support the weight of that heavy walled tube and the additional weight of the bipod he's probably going to permenantly mount to the rifle.... To qualify as a beanfielder requires that the rifle toss bullet weights for the intended game class at sufficient speed to stretch point blank range (minimal holdover or hold under correction) to as close to 400yards as possible. so yeah a 300WSM qualifies provided "you don't weigh it down"with 180gr bullets. Beanfielding implies DEER are the target. "Mountain rifle" can mean a lighter rifle shooting a less powerful cartridge to go after sheep, or a heavier caliber (338MAG) for hunting Elk near the timberline But it's about CARRYING as much as it is about caliber/cartridge. frankly I'd lug my "Beanfield rifle", a Rem700 in 7mmMag with a Hart heavy barrel up any mountain I'd be willing to walk up while I wasn't hunting. I frankly don't see the point in a lightweight rifle for carrying because it's cheaper for me to reduce carrying weight by deleting cheeseburgers from the hunter than shaving weight off my rifle, scope, etc... Like 6-12oz of rifle "dieting" is really going to make much difference in getting my 46year old 6'4" 300lb butt up that damned mountain..... I really love the guys who tout the advantages of the "lighter" short action rifles. the first guy who asked me that during a gunshop counter "hunting" session prompted my to reply, exactly how much do you think a 7/16" slice of rifle through the magazine well actually weighs? Never have received a really intelligent answer to that question.... If you ever see me bellied up to the counter doing the paperwork on a factory "mountain rifle" you may presume it's a 7mm-08 and I'm buying it as a gift for a lady friend, because you'll never see me on a mountain with one. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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A beanfield rifle is any well maintained, modern rifle in the hands of an experienced shooter.  | |||
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First of all, I think AD has the scoop on a beanfield rifle--I agree with his comments whole heartedly! This part is just hilarious though:
That is just Classic! I can see the comment of a shorter action fitting someone, but the weight thing is just a hoot! | |||
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What cracks me up more is all of the traded-in lightweight "mountain rifles" in 300WSM or 300SAUM that get traded in because they kick too hard. "It hurts to shoot it!".... No shit Sherlock! If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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The 7 m/m mag. A serious cal. Sissies beware. Not ment to offend just point out this bad boy will put a hurting on you in a heart beat. Respect it and hang on. There`s not a beanfield around it can`t cover. IMO. The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but the experience. | |||
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a 7mmMag provided you aren't talking about an "ultra" is but a 30-06 by another means. Serious caliber? Oh please! As I've said numerous times, I bought a 7mm Mag to improve upon the performance of a 25-06. the 7mmRem tosses 140's faster than a 25-06 tosses 100's and 120's (adequate for most any deer) at near varmint bullet speeds.... a 7mmRem is nearly the quintessential "beanfield rifle caliber" as a 30caliber mag isn't needed to kill deer. The point is that it IS NOT a fearful kicker, even in a lighter rifle (and if you consider it to be one please take up knitting instead of shooting) but heavy tends to be more easily tuned for accuracy if not more inherently accurate. If nothing else a heavy barreled rifle will tend to be accurate with several loads while a lighter rifle generally tends to be persnickity and favors only a few.... or one. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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Allan DEGroot: After reading your retort, I got out my knitting tools.  The best part of the hunt is not the harvest but the experience. | |||
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Seriously though you should read back on some of the posts brought to us by "the heavy bullet mafia" where they put forth the proposition that the 25-06 is inadequate as a deer cartridge unless you load it with 120gr bullets.... Or that anyone who loads the 7mmMag with 120's is only going to wound deer.... that you need 140's to kill cleanly... I find that the 7mm is LOUDER than a 30-06 but doesn't kick any differently... then again I think a 338Win mag kicks like a 30-06 too, so... Then there was that guy... I can't remember his used name I called him the Montreal Moron Who kept comming on to say a 7mmRem was known for "burning out" barrels in a couple hundred rounds..... It's not always easy to tell the difference between an attempt at humor and a genuine idiot. AD If I provoke you into thinking then I've done my good deed for the day! Those who manage to provoke themselves into other activities have only themselves to blame. *We Band of 45-70er's* 35 year Life Member of the NRA NRA Life Member since 1984 | |||
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