Here is an old but interesting article from Gun Digest on 9.3s. Hope you enjoy.
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Great article, thanks for sharing. I sure got a thing for my 9.3x74R Ruger No.1-S.

Yes, great article. Thanks for sharing!

What year was this written?

I too love the 9.3s and have them in 9.3x62 on a CZ 550 Custom Shop, AHR CZs, Ruger Africans, and a Dakota. I have them in 9.3x74R on Ruger No. 1s, and finally, one not mentioned in the article (not invented yet), I have an AHR in 9.3x66.

Truly a super caliber. Even a bit better than my beloved 35 Whelen...

Thank you for sharing. My 9.3 double is by far my favorite rifle!!! I built a 9.3x62 custom mauser for times I need a scoped rifle vs open sights. Have been considering building a 36 nosler. My 375 and 338's are collecting dust because of the 9.3's

1976. 30th edition

One purchase I regret not making was the Ruger #1 in 9,3x74r. Shoulda charged it!

Good performance from my 9.3x74R Ruger No.1-S, 320gr at 2350 fps and 285gr at 2500 fps with decent accuracy.

I have had a love affair going with the 9.3x62 and 9.3x64 to a much lesser degree for over 50 years, even back when I was the only person I knew who had even heard of such a caliber....but in reality today my thinking is the 338 Win, the .375 H&H and 375 Ruger are a bit better anyway you cut it, not to degrade the 9.3x62 its a grand old cartridge..

Im glad many don't agree with me, keeps her around and components available, long live the 9.3s.

Thanks for sharing

I noticed that the last page has been repeated 3 times. Any one else found that?

A not of caution for 9.3 cal fans. If you have an old 9.3X72 R double, single or drilling rifle, have the bore slugged. Also worth reading John Barsness/ old article on the caliber he got for his wife. That rifle slugged at 358 cal. Fred Barnes' Cartridges of the World says it is an older caliber than the more common 9.3X74R.

I am surprised to see a photo of a Mannlicher Schoenauer in 9.3X57 cal. Never knew that they made them in that caliber. That is the original Mauser caliber and common in Husqvarna rifles.

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Same for me. I get the "zoinks" message from Imgur.

I think those links were for DC Cole's article of 1976 from Gun digest.

I saved them into one PDF file. PM me with email if you want it. Also let me know if you want other articles and load info on 9.3 cal & particularly on 9.3X62

When I hear someone say they have been shooting the 9.3 x 62 for 50 years my ears prick up... many questions abound.... like what were you shooting through your rifle at that time ?

I ask this out of interest because there is a story to this question!

Now 50 years ago would put us around 1969

In 1969 there was no one in the USA making bullets nor brass for the 9,3 x 62 !

Imports were also limited to 3 companies only RWS, Norma and DWM..... now DWM ceased to exist around 1972. RWS though imported by Stoeger only sold 6 packs of 9.3 ammo in the 1985 sales year !

Norma did not export Sporting ammo to the world until 1950 and by 1986 they had no plans to import either 9,3 ammo or brass into the USA as confirmed by Will Caldwell in HLM 124 of 1986

Finn Agaard who wrote a article in HL in 1999 on the 9,3 x 62 pointed out that when he started hunting in Kenya circa 1949 there was no Norma ammo in Kenya.

So for the 9,3x62 there was DWM, RWS and Kynoch only..... all with the shitty bullets they were known for ...... Actually DWM had a "strong mantel bullet" "Stark Mantel Geschoss"

So where to now ? Speer imported DWM ammo for the 9.3 into the USA and in 1974 for the next two years made 250 gr speer bullets only to drop them from production for lack of sales..... only to bring the 270 gr bullet in production in 1986 !

If the answer is Woodleigh ...... Geoff MacDonald started his company because of this lack of bullet problem for British doubles and metrics when Kynoch ceased production in 1972 and DWM ceased to exist in the same year .

Woodleigh was only launched in the USA in 1985 at the Shot Show

In Africa we were literally up the creek in a canoe with no paddle.... Sure there were 9,3's x 62 but by 1972 there was no ammo !

Post WW2 FN produced 9,3x62 ammo and we had limited access to these. There was some left over Povaske Strojarne ( Brno ammo) which was sold with the first Brno's ever exported to the world in 1950 . The first ZG 47 rifles were all in 9,3x62 and these were sold by Bren Arms in Cape town in 1950 /51
Povaske Strojarne ceased production in 1954 !

So there we were..... canoes no paddles literally !

RWS was expensive. They sold their bullets, mantels, TIGS, TUGS Kegelspitze et all in little round green plastic tubs sealed with yellow tape.... 25 bullets per tub.

Relief came only around 1985 when PMP introduced bullets and brass for the 62 ! When PMP introduced their 9,3 offering Speer had not yet produced their 270 gr bullet.

The 9,3x64 is a even bigger problem
There were only two sources for brass ! DWM and RWS and RWS only introduced their ammo in 1985 !

So if you owned a 64 in 1972 you had a huge problem ! I was lucky to become the owner of a Brno ZG 47 built in 1957 in 9.3x64..... very very rare rifle.... and a 1972 Styer mannlicher Schoenauer heavy barrel...... brass, well there was DWM which was scarcer than hens teeth until RWS introduced their offering in 85

Now here is the thing.... the 9.3 x 62 was hailed as the Fantastic by all and sundry but they were loaded with the very same poor performance bullets made by DWM and RWS that everyone loves to condemn ? What will it be ?

Alf

Some good points there. Make me really think.

Pondoro Taylor praised the 9.3X62 as great for lion. Not sure what bullet he used. Need to read up again.

I suspect that the ammo of 50 or 80 years ago was slower and therefore the RWS etc. did not separate cores like they do with 2400+ fps velocities. The other thing is that the 286gr bullet was already heavy for caliber and therefore it did not have the same problems that lighter RWS bullets had in this or other calibers. Just guessing here.....

What about Sellier & Bellote ammo?

I wonder if the great success of the old 9.3X62 ammo was due to heavy for caliber 286gr bullets at 2300fps - similar to the 6.5 cal 160 gr bullets at 2300 fps???

Sellier & Bellot is a very old firm and under communist rule at one time was owned by Zbrojovka Brno.

after 1972 under UN sanctions it became tough to get ammo and to boot the SA Government slapped import duties on foreign goods mainly to force sale of home grown goods. This then included rifles and ammo.

For some unknown reason getting 22 LR ammo became a real problem ( 22 ammo was made by Swartklip who also manufactured shotgun ammo) This was then the first time we saw the importation of S&B 22 ammo and also handgun ammo especially 9mm para ammo. S&B was exported via the Omnipol Umbrella same as Brno ZKK , ZKW and ZKM rifles.

The current crop of S&B offerings are relatively recent ( we are talking 90's and on ) and their bullets are definitely not premium. Their attraction is brass for what otherwise would be obsolete calibers

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My beautiful 9.3x62 was in the beginning was a beautiful wall hanger, my brother brought back from Germany, In time I found small bag of brass and 100 bullets to hunt with from a local rancher, later found a single mold at a gun show in Waco Texas..LIke my .470 H&H I bought at the Boise Gun show for $2500 about 40 years ago and the fine bolt gun I sold to Lb-404 in a weird caliber that I do not recall, but I found brass from Horneber, and bullets from Woodleigh as best I recall, I always managed to find or figure out how to shoot them. Old Western Scrouger, Horneber,Woodleigh and Bertam, along with some garage mechnics that could make anything like a young Butch Searcy, somebody somewhere has what your looking for, at least here in the USA...Another that near drove me nuts was finding components for a WR .425, a beautiful gun but at one time hard to find components..All this stuff became available about 30 years ago best I recall due to the restoration of the foundered Safari business..

I am a relative new comer to the 9.3 caliber. But I'm a medium bore whore. Packy

9.3X62 brass is easy to form from .30-'06 cases and .366 bullets are not hard to size down from .375, if you take it .003" at a time.

I bought an RCBS A2 loading press in 1960 primarily because of its reputation for use in reforming cases.

Back then, "Cartridge Conversions" by George Nonte was my bible.

That it was, and I learned early on,where there is a will there is a way..It was common back then to swage a hard to find bullet from a larger caliber bullet..Brass and ammo back in the day was purchased in strange places like gas stations and saddle shops. I recall Win made a 9 mm in the mod. 70 and ammo and components were all but impossible to find..My first 9.3x62 came to me with some brass (Kynoch) and I annealed it a few times and kept it working under the tuteledge of an old gunsmith that could and would make anything. He introduced me to the 30-06 for cases...I knew a local gunsmith who passed on some time ago who could make brass for his 4 bore and my 10 bore...If you end up with a nice old gun that's a component problem , don't sit and whine, get out there and figure it out..Back then double rifles sold for next to nothing, I owned a few of them and when the African biz went wild, I sold those $200 to $500 double wall hangers for anywhere form $1500 to $5000 for my old Holland in 465, another .470 for $4500, and sold them too soon..A like new WR as I recall black powder 500 sold at Twin Falls gun show for $500 by Gary Hopper and it was beautiful, and as new...They were considered all but junk..When it boomed it boomed, and now its going down fast it seems to me..I'll buy when it bottoms out. and I'llshoot them even if nobody makes ammo for them.

I find it hard to believe that Alf couldn't make 9.3x62s out of 30-06s and swage bullets or mold bullets for such a nice old caliber.

Ray Swage and reload ? with what at the time ?
reloading was illegal in many southern African countries at the time..... as was bow hunting

The measure was aimed at “you know who” same with bow hunting or even hunting with dogs

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Originally posted by z1r:
One purchase I regret not making was the Ruger #1 in 9,3x74r. Shoulda charged it!

Here's your opportunity to remedy that.

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