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I am really into takedown rifles, will soon post pics of my Verney-Carron bolt takedown in .270WSM. I have a rebarelled takedown BLR in . 375 Ruger, great DG gun. I'm now looking for a more versatile takedown BLR...Looking for your experiences especially w/ 7mm/08; I have a non takedown BLR in .308 & love it... Never had a 7mm/08... Which would you choose & why? Thanks to all.... | ||
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My brother has a BLR takedown in a 7mm-08 that I have shot many times. I've offered to take it off his hands on a number of occasions. It is one of the easiest shooting and accurate lever action rifles I've had the pleasure to shoot. I love the way the BLR's shoulder and IMHO, the actions set the standard for smoothness. One plus for the takedown models is that they are much easier to clean. Since you already have a 308 BLR, I would not hesitate getting the little 7mm-08. Start young, hunt hard, and enjoy God's bounty. | |||
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In my opinion, the only advantage to the 7mm-08 is a very marginal decrease in recoil. They are both super accurate, and no animal is really going to notice much of a difference. Add the fact that you can find 308 ammo most anywhere in the world, and you've got my practical choice, hands down. All that being said, I really like the 7x57, and the 7x57 is nicely duplicated by the 7mm-08. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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308 Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue. What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Thanks for the feedback, I may go w/.308; the one drawback for me is that some countries do not allow any military rounds ( eg- France, where I want to go for chamois, and, I think, some of the African countries- no biggie b/c I have the .270 WSM also for travel) | |||
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Since this AR, I feel compelled to answer with an option you didn't ask about lol ... 358 Win Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Ahh, yes, .358 Winchester...I have a non-takedown BLR in that caliber, great woods gun, but as a non-reloader can be tough to find ammo. But maybe that's changed? Its been a while since I looked. | |||
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With regard to the ammo laws banning 308 win, I would go with the 7mm-08. I prefer the 308 for the reasons I spelled out before, but the 7-08 is very good. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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7-08mm is a great choice When there's lead in the air, there's hope!!!! | |||
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I have two 308's but truth be known I have thought about rebarreling the M-88 to 7-08. I am a 7mm fan. Unlike many on the board, I like about a 145 7mm bullet or a 150 gn 308 for deer sized game. It is plenty to get the job done, and with the 7mm option you can do it with a slightly flatter trajectory and better SD. I am currently working up such a load for a 7X57 and liking what I see so far. Light recoil, flat shooting and plenty powerfull. Thats what I call a happy medium. But there really isnt much difference between the two. Get which one you think would best suit your needs. Its hard to go wrong with that kind of choice. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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Joester If any African country has a problem with the .308 on non-dangerous game, I'm not aware of it. And if I was, I would probably scratch said country off my hunting 'bucket list' | |||
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In the real world, you'll never be able to tell the difference between the two. Since you said you may travel to places that don't allow military rounds, my vote goes to the 7mm-08. | |||
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Lots of great info; thanks to all... I think I'll go .308 mainly b/c I don't roll my own & there is such a big variety of mfd. ammo. i'll let those French chamois deal w/ my .270WSM. Looks like no problema in African countries after all, now that I think of it, most I've visited allowed .30/06 so military rounds must be allowed... | |||
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Not to sound contrary but it seems odd that France would be so concerned about the ammo? From a legal standpoint, if it is not a tracer, armor piercing, incindieary, etc... than it's not a military round...Right? This would seem to support their position on ammo restrictions better than saying the 308 round is banned but the 7mm-08 is ok? Captain Finlander | |||
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You assume there is logic involved in legislation... | |||
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You will be hunting with a soft point 308 Winchester, not that evil 7.62x51 military stuff. I thought everybody knew the difference on that one! Anyway, tell me about that 375 ruger conversion. Who did it, much custom work other than a barrel swap. That would be a cool set up. "The difference between adventure and disaster is preparation." "The problem with quoting info from the internet is that you can never be sure it is accurate" Abraham Lincoln | |||
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JCS- My BLR was a .300 Win mag. takedown, my gunsmith ( a wizard!) made his own tools to take off the original barrel and put on a Shilen in .375 Ruger. It shoots MOA upon every reassembly: Lester Knipe, The Varmint Shop, Orefield PA. | |||
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You should be set up for reloading. A single stage is fine. In that case you can reform from .308 to .243, .260, .7mm-08, .338 Fed., .358. I still would go to 358 as you can load 357 pistol bullets for varmints and all the way up to a 310 gr Woodleigh for anything but ele. | |||
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since this year 2013 308 win is now legal in France ... | |||
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Actually, this comment is where my head was at. Do said African Countries that ban the 7.62x51 military stuff ban the .308 cartridge by default? By the same token, would the venerable 30-06 be banned? I could understand (vaguely…) on the 7x57 and .303… The question either way is: are commercial applications banned alongside the military counterpart? Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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