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Hi All..I need to work up a load for my 308Win. Ed Brown Marine Sniper Rifle...24" Kreiger BBL...1x10 twist...distance will range from 50 to 300 yards....Which NOSLER Bullet..??? 150 Partition...?...150 Ballistic Tip..??? The New 168 Ballistic Tip..??? or...???? What..?? What say ye learned gentlemen..??
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I am in love with the Accubonds for deer sized game. I shot two last season with my 280 and the bullet was flawless. I find them to be extremely accurate in my guns as well. I'm going to shoot 130 from my 6.5x55 next season.
 
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For hunting I like a 165gr Partition and 46.0grs of Varget. It shoots better than 1/2 MOA in a couple different Steyr's of mine and will cleanly take any game I'd use a 308 for. The Accubonds are slightly more aerodynamic but not enough to matter a whit to 300yds and don't shoot quite as well in my Steyr's but they are probably still worth a try in yours.
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150 or 165 in partition, accubonds, or ballistic tips...@ 308win speeds they all work on deer
 
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Any 150gr bullet will work well. If you're hung up on Noslers, go with the 150gr NP. It's track record goes waaaaaaay back.
Wonder how many WT deer have been killed with a 308 and a 150gr Core Lokt bullet???
 
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Partition or Accubond, I have had some bad luck with Ballistic Tips
 
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I am new to 308, but Accubond bullets have worked great on deer size game for me in my 270.

I have been loading 165 gr Corelokts in my 308 and killed a 250+ lb hog yesterday with them. They print really nice on paper too.

I went to the range today and tried loads with 168 gr Ballistic Tips and 180 gr Accubonds, and believe it or not, they printed the same with the same powder charge and grouped very well.






 
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THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN...I will try the 150 Partitions first..I have used them in my 30/06 before...no bang/flops with the partitions but the deer never went more than 25yds either...
thank you again..
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150 or 165 in partition, accubonds, or ballistic tips...@ 308win speeds they all work on deer


Can't argue with that. I'd try the Ballistic Tips first. They cost a little less than the other two, and they are just the right combination of frangibility and penetration for whitetail-sized game.

You won't have any complaints about the Partition, either. 150 grain bullets are plenty heavy, especially in the .308.
 
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I use the 165gr Interbonds with Varget. They hang together pretty well, better than BT's and have shot exceptionally well in a few '06's and 308 Win's I've loaded for.
 
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I use the 165gr Interbonds with Varget. They hang together pretty well, better than BT's and have shot exceptionally well in a few '06's and 308 Win's I've loaded for.



I think that's "Accubond", "interbond" bullets are made by HornadySmiler

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Accubonds are great !


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Any of them in 308, 150gr and above are adequate for deer. Let your rifle tell you which one. Shoot what is most accurate.


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It does not take a premium bonded bullet to kill a whitetail. Nothing wrong with using them if that is what works best for you. I've had great luck with the Remington Cor-lokt and for economy they are hard to beat. If you feel the need for a premium bullet, then I've had equally great luck with the Hornady Interlock and Sierra Gamking in both 150 and 165 grain weights. The Sierra's shoot the most accurate in my 308, but the others are just as capable for hunting. I've probably had more deer drop instantly from the Sierra than the others and it excells at long range due to its high B.C. It's great to have so many good options.
 
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150GRN Accubond.
Have the brought back the Noslar "solid bases"?
 
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What size "Whitetails" are you hunting? 90lb Georgia or 300 lb Alberta. It would make a differeance in my bullet choice.


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What size "Whitetails" are you hunting? 90lb Georgia or 300 lb Alberta. It would make a differeance in my bullet choice.



Indeed it would for me also, RL 15, CCI BR2, and 150 accubonds shoot like match loads in mine. I would prefer a little more penetration on the big deer so I will work with 165's when the snow depth drops a little towards spring.

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150GRN Accubond.
Have the brought back the Noslar "solid bases"?


Nosler continues to produce some versions of the Solid Base for sale to ammunition manufacturers. They occasionally have overruns and offer them through their website or through a limited number of resellers.

The solid base has always been one of my favorite bullets. I took a large feral boar, a 21-inch spread whitetail, and finished a whitetail wounded by a companion hunter all in a single day with .30/150gr Solid Base bullets from a .30-06.
 
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Sargeny 1

I would use whatever weight of bullet you use for your "accuracy" load in your rifle.

I am guessing it would be a 168 Sierra Match King, or a 175 MK.

I do not recommend using the Match Kings for hunting.

You might be able to use a same weight hunting bullet and develop a load that hits the same place or nearly so as your "accuracy" load.

Ie. 165 or 168 or 180 gr hunting bullets depending on your match bullet.

If you try some Ballistic Tips you might find that they shot as good, or even better than Match bullets.

If you need deeper penetration try some Nosler Partitions. In my 308's they have always shot very good.

I have also killed a lot of deer and wild pigs with the Sierra 165gr BTHP, Gameking.

On paper out to 300 yard this bullet shoots as good as a Matchking in most 308's I have tried it in. It has given excellent performance on game from 50 yards to 550 yards [antelope].
I load it over 39.5gr of IMR 3031. Mild load, but it will function an M1-A M1 Garand {308}, FN-FAL and the H&K 91.
Very accurate in any 308 I have shot it in.

I have killed several deer and wild pigs with the Winchester factory load, 168 gr Ballistic Silvertip. I killed 2 deer and a wild pig with it just 2 weeks ago.


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HI ALL AGAIN....I have only fired 40 of Federal's 168gr Match Loads thru this rifle so far.....I won't bore you with its PHENOMONAL accuracy..suffice to say it is truly one hell of an accurate rifle...I want it for hunting...mainly eastern whitetails...here in NY...have brothers in Georgia and Texas to hunt with....whitetails again....YES..jeez..sooo many choices of bullets....have never lost a deer with the 150gr. partitions...they always exited with a big exit hole and a good blood trail...no bang/flops though....the deer are not that big here in the east or down south....well..maybe up in maine...but have never seen any 300lb. texas...georgia oy NY deer....
Thanks for your input..
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I have had several bang/flops with the Ballistic Tip bullets.

The two deer I killed 2 weeks ago with the Win factory 168 Ballistic Silvertips were bang/flops.

I hit them both behind the shoulder.
The Ballistc Tips will mess up a shoulder pretty bad if you hit one.


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Play around with a few and shoot witch ever one is most acurate in your rifle. I am unaware of a new 168 grain balistic tip. But if you can find some I bet its a good place to start.
If you plan to stay within 300 yards I think a 165 or 168 grain balistic tip would be great.
A 150 grain acubond would too.
Partitions are great bullets and in my experience very acurate too.
But rather expensive and not needed for deer.
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Truely, which ever is most accurate in your rifle. I have one that likes 150 partitions and another that likes 165 BT. I don't care what size the deer is, they do not have armour, any Nosler bullet 150 or above will work. If the deer are small, the 125 BT is exceptional as well.


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my brother and I inherited a 308 Remmy semi-auto from our late uncle. I loaded up the 165 Btip for it over 3031 if I recall, or maybe Re15. It's been so long I can't remember. I loaded up about 250 rounds and since we rarely take it out, we have tons of bullets left.

But, the 165 Btip grouped fairly well, about 1.5". I did not work up a load for this rifle. Instead, I looked at the Nosler manual, added a grain of powder to the miminum and went at it.

That load has killed about 5 or 6 deer in the south. From memory, the deer all fell at impact.

I think, if you MAY be shooting out to 300 yards, the 165 wt bullet is a good choice. Any of the Noslers will serve you well for deer. In your particular case, I'd go with the Btip.


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I like the 180 Partitions in my little Winny classic compact in .308 for three good reasons.

1. Nosler usually has them in "seconds" at a very reasonable price.

2. When they hit a deer it goes down right now, often without another step.

3. they are more accurate than my shooting capabilities.
 
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I would skip the balistic tips, they don't do so well when they hit bone. Accubonds or partitions would be the best from the Nosler line. Barnes TSX usually do well as well. 150 or 165 gr would work well on deer.

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@ 308 win velocities I prefer a heavier than needed weight when using BT's, like 165's...

I figure a BT @ 165

 
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150GRN Accubond.
Have the brought back the Noslar "solid bases"?


Nosler continues to produce some versions of the Solid Base for sale to ammunition manufacturers. They occasionally have overruns and offer them through their website or through a limited number of resellers.

The solid base has always been one of my favorite bullets. I took a large feral boar, a 21-inch spread whitetail, and finished a whitetail wounded by a companion hunter all in a single day with .30/150gr Solid Base bullets from a .30-06.


The 30cal 150grn Solid base NOSLAR from a 30/06 was also my favorite. thumb
 
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Hi All..I need to work up a load for my 308Win. Ed Brown Marine Sniper Rifle...24" Kreiger BBL...1x10 twist...distance will range from 50 to 300 yards....Which NOSLER Bullet..??? 150 Partition...?...150 Ballistic Tip..??? The New 168 Ballistic Tip..??? or...???? What..?? What say ye learned gentlemen..??
Thanks to All..
Pete


I do all of the reloading for my "hunting gang" - my dad, brother, cousins, and friends. For our Catskill whitetail deer population, I have used 150g Nosler Partitions exclusively for all of the 308s and 30-06s. Not one deer has been lost and none ever needed a second shot. Typical NP results - tremendous organ damage and good exit wounds when hit broadside through the lungs. Massive bone damage and nicely mushroomed bullet with some - most of the lead "wiped" away from the nose but rear section perfectly intact when shot through the shoulders. Couldn't ask for better performance than that, in my opinion.


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