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I have a model 70 classic in 7mmSTW wood and blue. I realized the other day it has been a long time since i shot it ! It is a tack driver with 160 grain accubonds and Sierra 160 hollow point game kings, and i was thinking I might try some 175 grain bullets for elk. I might try a 160 grain tripple shock barnes and I would not be at all suprised if The thing shot 1 hole groups with that bullet, and hit somthing between 33 and 3400 fps, I would love to see a 175 grain T shock but it aint there yet. I have some 175 grain Hornady interbonds but I think i might push them a little fast for a big rocky mountain bull, might break up on the shoulder at 3100. my old Hornady manusal says 23 to 2900 is best for that bullet. No 175 grain accubonds either, mabye a partition ? My 1st choice for powder is RL-25, But I have done well with H-1000 too. any body have a good Elk load for my Model 70 / By the way it has an VARI X 3 ,4.5X14...tj3006 freedom1st | ||
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There is absolutely no need to use 175gr bullets for elk.I have killed several with the 140gr partition out of my 7mmstw.The 140gr or 160gr tsx would offer more than enough penetration. | |||
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I shoot a 7mm Dakota, pretty close to the STW. I like the 160gr NP, it's worked great from 100-200 or so yards (haven't had a longer shot yet). I'ld like to try some 175gr but using an 'X', you really don't need the extra weight. Nothing wrong w/ the 160grNAB either, I just haven't shot anything w/ it yet. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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With the 7MM STW I would use a 160 gr Premium bullet in open country. For close range shooting I would use a 175 gr Premium bullet. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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I use the 175-grain Nosler Partition for elk in both the 7X57mm and the 7mm Rem. Mag. There are a lot of nice premium bullets out there that will do a good job in the 7mm STW, but none will do any better than the Nosler Partition on any game, up to Cape Buffalo!! "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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The 7mm STW was designed for those that live in Wisconsin and hunt elk in Wyoming and don't want to leave home to do it. It takes the 175 grain bullet for that task. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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In the area I hunt, the Fossil unit in eastern oregon there is no telling how far you might have to shoot. The rifle choices I have are .338 win 35 Whelan 45/70 STW 7mag 30,06. There are other rifles in my battery that would do, but these are the best choices. I am thinking my 45/70 will most likly be going, for use in a couple tree stands i know of, and either the .338 or the STW for glassing at distance. I like my .338 real well too, but it is not as accurate as my stw. I think the 160 grain tripple shock is a great choice. The accubond would be a very good chice, but the posibility of a 50 yard shot is what is steering my twords either the Barnes or a 175 grain , probably a partition. I just think the convetional bullet drivin at the speeds my stw might reach, might be a bad choice. I bet in 2006 the Accubond and the t-shock will be available in a 175 grain version...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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I haven't hunted elk with my 7mm STW, but have some 175 Nosler Partitions loaded to 3100 fps "just in case" I wanted to (btw: takes a damn slow powder to reach that velocity without running pressures out the roof). While the 175 were what I had available, I wouldn't hesitate to use the 160 Partition or Accubond. | |||
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BTW, I've been using IMR7828 in my 7mm Dakota. With a 26"bbl. I get an easy 3250fps w/ the 160grNP. It's a #1 & it will hold an honest 1moa for 3 shots. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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TJ-for what it is worth my elk buddy has taken quite a few elk with his STW and the 175 Horn, he's never had a single compaint. We've only found one bullet that I can remember and that one was from a small bull shot at a 300 yds. The bull was angled down from us, bullet went in thru the spine, thru the left shoulder and we found it just under the skin. It was a bit beat up but it sure did the job. He's also used the 175 Noz a fair bit and can not tell any diff. I shoot a 7 Mashburn Super and I mainly use the 160's. Although my bull from last fall caught a 140 TX thru both shoulders and exited at 520 yds. I would certainly take a close look at the 160 TX unless you are realy driven to use the 175's. Then I guess I'd use a 175...grins. The SAF 175 is an excellent head also! Good luck MD | |||
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My STW drives tacks with the 160 grain North Forks with H-1000 powder and Fed 215M primers. It would be a great Elk cartridge by anyone's standard.  Good shooting.phurley | |||
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Hey Pat is Northfork and Jensen the same? Thx MD | |||
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Then I guess that those elk that I killed with the 140gr partition out of my 7mmstw's must have been scared to death.  | |||
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I personally know a guy who shot two elk last year with a STW and he used 150gr Swift A-Frames and they worked Awesome. -just food for thought -Everybody has a dream hunt, mine just happens to be for a Moose.- -The 30-06 is like a perfect steak next to a campfire, a .300 Win Mag is the same but with mushrooms and a baked potato- | |||
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Heck I didn't think they made the 150 in a A Frame??? MD | |||
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A-frames for 7mm come in 140,160 and 175. The 150's are Scirocco's.  | |||
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Lots of replies gentelmen ! And I thank you ! I went through my STW ammo box, and I had quite a few loads set up with the 160 grain acubond and the 160 grain sierra HP game king. I will shoot up a few of those this weekengd and load up some 175 grain hornadys with IMR-7828SSC. i will score some 160 graintripple shocks this weekend and some RL 25 to push them with. ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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yup, I was wrong I checked they were the 160's. Error corrected, but besides that, they worked great. I personally can't wait for this year when he takes his .338 Ultra with 270gr. Swifts. That will get the point accross to any Bull. -Everybody has a dream hunt, mine just happens to be for a Moose.- -The 30-06 is like a perfect steak next to a campfire, a .300 Win Mag is the same but with mushrooms and a baked potato- | |||
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I like the 160 and 175 gr. Nosler partition. I shoot a 7mm x 300 Weatherby and use STW load data to work with. I have taken 3 Elk with the gun, 2 with the 175gr. and the other with 160gr. Results were excellant with both. Going to start working some loads with the Barnes TSX for this coming elk season. Have found it to be another fantastic bullets in a few of my other calibers. Scott | |||
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Maybe Canadian elk are different....Honestly, If I was a person that truly thought a 140 grain bullet was totally and wholly the bees knees for elk, I'd be using a .270 and never thinking about a 7 MM STW. I just happen to be a guy that believes that the real advantage in the 7 MMs is their ability to push much heavier payloads. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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I imajine a 140 would kill an elk alright ! But I really do not see where a 140 would give any real advantage over a 160 or 175. I asume the 140 grain bullets are a little flatter shooting But generaly the highest BC in .284 is with a 160. I think I can get a 160 grain t-shock up to at least 3250 and most likly 3350. For a long range shot at the boiler room of a bull elk ,if I can do MOA, that should be good for any range at witch I can ethicly take a shot at the bull, I wonder at what range a 160 grain Tripple shock with a muzzle velocity of say 3300 drops below 2000, fpe ? ...tj3006 freedom1st | |||
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IMO The 160 gr pill is the one of choice for elk and moose size critters. For deer and antelope the 140 is king of the heap. As always just my opinion. John | |||
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I use the 140gr bullets because they do shoot flatter and also because they are more accurate in my rifles.The 140gr tsx would be my bullet of choice if I still used my 7mmstws for elk. | |||
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Mark ----- The North Fork bullets and the Jensen bullets are not the same. I think the Jensen bullets are "Lost River Ballistics" or something like that. You can look at the North Forks at http://www.northforkbullets.com Good shooting.phurley | |||
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