Here is my dilemna, okay i can purchase a sako 75 grey wolf in 25-06, 270, or 308, or a winchester model 70 classic ss in 270 nib. which do i choose and why?

I like them all !
But witch i would choose would depend on what and where I was hunting.
if your hunting game bigger than caribu, i would drop the 25,06. Its a great round but a rather poor choce for really big stuff.
But if your game is Deer antilope and or caribu , then its a great choice.
If you are going after the bigger stuff then either the .270 or the .308 are better.
I think the .270 is probably the best round for open country hunters among the 3 you list,
But the .308 while often over looked will do real well out to 300 yards.
So, back to the same question what are you shooting and where ? None of the 3 rounds are bad choices, Mabye just pick the rifle that feels best in your hand...tj3006

Don't hesitate Bomber, M70 Classic in .270 Winchester. You can buy the Grey Wolf latter if you want.

Bomber
What game will you hunt with it and what calibers do you have close to it.

.270 of course.

Terry

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Originally posted by TC1:
.270 of course.

Terry

+1

The Sako is a great rifle, 75's are not very available anymore, the new generation is the 85--I like them also, but think I might prefer the 75 actually........

I am an arkie, so whities,blackies and hogs mainly with a trip to the rockies once a year for elk, i hunt in big woods, with open breaks where a 400 yd shot is possible. 308 has more frontal, and almost shoots as flat, 25-06 has the least recoil, but the 270 is nice also.

winchester m70 is a real good deal and has nostalgia, but the sako is guranteed accuracy of 5 shots in an inch

For my money, .270 win all the way. Unless big bears (griz/brown) are on the menu in which case, none of the above.

Well Bomber, hogs and Elk would rule the 25,06 out. Unless you have other rifles.
never hunted hogs but seems to me the .308 would be the way to go.
I am glad to hear you mention the .308 shoots nearly as flt as the 25,06 , and out to 300 yards I agree. If you get out there to 400 or so i think the 25,06 has the advantage, but I would only shoot that far if conditions were perfect anyway.
but if you are going to use this rifle for Elk I would go 165 grain barnes or partition, in the .308 or 150 grain barnes or 160 grain partition in the .270. good luck but you cant loose here all good rifles...tj3006

1) 25-06
2) 270
3) 308

Just personal preference...

the problem is i like the winchester model 70, but i get guranteed accuracy out of the sako 75 and that is real appealing, i am leaning towards the 308 over the 270, and i am confident in the 25-06 for hogs or elk with tbbc's. quite the quandry

You still do not give us much to work with but here goes as my opinion.

The 25-06 has been my go to rifle for whitetail deer and hogs since before it was commercially available. With 120 Nosler Partitions and you doing your part.....dead animal. The 270 is probably as close to Americas caliber as they come. It speaks for itself. The 308 allows you to use heavier projectiles with greater frontal area to take larger game. The difference in rifles to me does not come in caliber but in the rifle itself. While the Sakos are excellent rifles, I just have never been a proponent of clip fed rifles for hunting situations. Just another variable to take out of the game. As I said earlier, the 270 is probably as close as it comes to Americas caliber and overall that is what I would suggest with the Winchester Model 70.

Think Jack O'Conner!

Win 70 in 270 Winchester and never look back! 130 for Deer Size and 150 NP's for Elk.

Mike

1. 270 Win
2. 25-06
3. 308

Bomber
From what you said I would go with the 308.

It is one of my favorites.

270 winchester would be my choice! As to the rifles shoulder them both and see which one feels the best,also weight would be something I would look at. Good luck on your choice. If you're looking to hunt elk leave out the 25-06. I think the 270 is the starting point there.

270 sako would be my choice.

Reasoning? Well, the 270 can handle any of the game you speak of easily with the right bullet and Sako puts out some great shooters. The Model 70 may shoot or it may not. I believe you have a better chance at a super accurate rifle by going with the Sako. Accuracy builds confidence....

Good Luck

Reloader

No contest here in Ozzie as the Sako isn't much dearer than a Winchester. And much nicer made and more accurate out of the box.

Go the 270 if you after elk, much classier cartridge than the 308. And load it with 150 Northforks.........................

Out of those three I like the .270 for a nice rifle...............the .308 in my eyes is more of a culling rifle etc.

As the majority opinion is 270 I'll say 308

IMHO a production Winchester from the last many years doesn't hold a candle to a Sako 75. The clip fed thing is interesting, I much prefer them actually, but you can forget one and turn your rifle into a single shot....having said that, almost all military weapons are clip fed arrangements, and that is a situation where your hunting something that shoots back.....I don't get all the hullabaloo about clips, I always have a couple of spares, and plenty of extra ammo available quickly, but the only time I really use it is on a prarie dog shoot or such, and then it isn't really necessary!

Go SAKO 75 in .270 Win and don't look back!

308 is definitely the way to go. Here in northern Ontario, the 30-06 and 308win rule the roost when it comes to hunting bear and moose. The 300 Win Mag and 7mm Rem Mag are both really popular as well. T find a hunter here with less than a .30 is a pretty rare bird.

The 308 Win is definitely an accurate round, you can buy ammo at any hardware store in a pinch, more energy then the other two choices especially since Elk are on the menu.

AS I have 3 sako 75's that would surely get my vote, lower bolt lift, very smooth action and built like a tank.Great shooters. I'd go with .270 1st then the .308.

model 70 with a little help from accurate innovations.

Lofter, that's a lot of help--Nice Rig!

MSwickard is right: the .270, and leave the others at home...

The .270 will shoot a 160-grain semi-spitzer Partition at about 2750 with the right handloads, and that is plenty of elk medicine. Pigs are easy (despite all the ink to the contrary), and black bears are typically close, if shot over bait. You can load the .270 down to 130s and take pronghorn, whitetails, mule deer, even Sitka blacktails if you have the opportunity.

Why not the other two? Well, the .25-'06 is limited to a 120-grain bullet to the best of my knowledge, and if that is so, it is too fast to hold together on an elk. Oh, I know, it can be done, but kinetic energy is a function of mass, and the larger mass will "hold" energy longer. It will do deer and pigs, even black bear okay, but on an elk you are asking a lot from a bullet with a .257" diameter, .067" or so of that being copper. Doesn't leave much lead to maintain energy once the dense muscle of an elk is contacted. And that bull is going to be roughly 24" thick...

As for the .308, it starts off rather anemic for .30 calibers as I see it, and it's trajectory is going to be a bit less desirable than either of the other two because of it's slower muzzle velocity. I think the .308 is a fine military firearm, and yes, it kills game each year, but: there are a lot of other calibers that do the job so much better.

Just my opinion...

if you hunt woods, shots under 200yds, I'd go with the 308.Then again I'm a 30 caliber kinda guy.The 270 is a great all around round too.If I hunted more open country I might opt for it.


Bill

The .308 is not as anemic as some may believe, if the 270 with 160gr bullets at 2750 is considered flat shooting, you can more than duplicate that loading with the 165gr in 308 without much troubles. You still have more frontal area, more energy and you can always load heavier bullets if needed, altough the 308 is best served with the 165gr bullets in my opinion.

Win Model 70 in .270Win, with 150gr bullets it will humiliate the .308

I would get one of each with the same style of stock-scope them the same and your spouse will never know you have three instead of one...cool

since I have a 25-06, and a 270 that I traded a 308 for I will give you my opion.get a 270,if it will group with 140's there is nothing that can beat it this side of the 300 magnums.This is of course,my opion,but 3000 fps with a 140 with a good BC is hard to beat.

get a 270.

308 just because I don't like 270's no real reason just don't like em.

You mentioned that a 400 yard shot is possible. Are you used to shooting at that distance? How many animals have you taken at 250+ yards?

If the answer to both questions are yes and a couple of animals, then go for the .270.

If the answer to both questions are never and none, then go for the .308. That's not to say the .308 can't be used at distances over 250 yards. Obviously it can. But smaller diameter bullets are better suited for longer distances.

You should wait until you find a 30-06. Then, you'd have a rifle that'd do it all !

id use a 25-06 on a elk, but probably not at 400 yards, i would rather have a 308 in my hands. if you are reloading there are a larger selection of projectiles for a .308 over here sometimes you have to wait for a specific 25 or 270 cal bullet to get in stock. the 270 is a great deer round tho... I dont think you could go wrong with either of the 3 you mentioned.

No brainer....270!!!

308 would be second. 25.06 last.

My 270 chronos the 160gr. Nosler at 2870 fps with R-22 and thats enough for any critter up to 1000 lbs.

i just went thru this one, those were my 3 choices in a new deer rifle, i started out looking for a savage weather wrrior in one of these 3 calibers,but no distibutors had any. i ended up getting a 270 in tikka t3 .