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I'm tired of the manufacturer of every newly-produced rifle trying to make their rifle look like one of Flash Gordon's ray guns from 65 years ago. Worse, they have to chamber them in a 6.5/250 Savage A.I. aka Creedmoor, which is somehow light years better and more powerful than the marginally larger 6.5/308 aka .260 Rem.
 
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I'm tired of Blaser fanboys trying to convince us normal folks that a weird shooting contraption producing similar accuracy to a good M-70 is somehow justification for owning / hunting with / shooting a butt ugly rifle, maybe one half step above a home made Zip-Gun, while claiming it's some kind of solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist in the first place.

And what's with covering a synthetic stock with leather and calling it an all weather rifle?

So much BS surrounding those thing-of-a-ma-jigs.

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I don't bash the 6.5 Creedmore but I do think the hype is way out of control. Below are two examples I like.

I was on a hunt with two old clients last year in NM. The oldest guy in our party is a rifleman from way back in Elmer Keith's day. He and his guy spotted a buck at about 450 yards. My client said he thought that shot was beyond what he felt comfortable with. The guide said he understood but would have encourages him to try the shot is he had his rifle along. The guide was talking about as you've guessed his 6.5 Creedmore driving a 140 gr bullet at 2700 fps. My client had his pet 270 WBY driving a 130 at 3350 fps!

My ex BIL was going on a moose hunt in AK. He went to Cabela's looking for an upgrade from his trusty '06. The ballistics expert behind the counter immediately recommended the 6.5 Creedmore to hunt his 1500# trophy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He asked me about it and I kind of explained that the Creedmore was actually less moose appropriate than his '06. He bought a 300 WM and is quite happy with it.

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Not quite a gun issue, but I’m sick and tired of COVID.
 
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I’m tired of people who shoot game animals at 600 yards or so, and call themselves hunters. A hunter stalks his pray and gets as close as possible before shooting. To shoot game animals at extreme ranges isn’t hunting, it’s shooting.




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I’m tired of people who shoot game animals at 600 yards or so, and call themselves hunters. A hunter stalks his pray and gets as close as possible before shooting. To shoot game animals at extreme ranges isn’t hunting, it’s shooting.



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I put everything I am tired of hearing in my signature line.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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I'm tired of Blaser fanboys trying to convince us normal folks that a weird shooting contraption producing similar accuracy to a good M-70 is somehow justification for owning / hunting with / shooting a butt ugly rifle, maybe one half step above a home made Zip-Gun, while claiming it's some kind of solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist in the first place.

And what's with covering a synthetic stock with leather and calling it an all weather rifle?

So much BS surrounding those thing-of-a-ma-jigs.

barf


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the blaser is here to stay dancing

remember it is not a gun but a lifestyle

you need one of these for the tired years to come Big Grin

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Mike, don't spoil Santa's surprise!

 
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i am tired of gun companies marketing consumer products instead of making more guns. my k95s (3 on order) are back ordered 2 plus years Mad

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I put everything I am tired of hearing in my signature line.
And I take great joy in reading them. They're a rare example of insight into human nature. They are wry and I delight in reading them.
 
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This one might not be right.

8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.

I have never been to Africa BUT Smiler in Australia as you move further inland the radiant heat gets greater and greater. So at 100F in the outback things heat up a lot more than 100 F in Sydney or 100 F in from the coast but not as far into the outback. I have no idea whether the lack of humidity is the reason but the difference is very noticeable.
 
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i am tired of gun companies marketing consumer products instead of making more guns. my k95s (3 on order) are back ordered 2 plus years


The robot making them has had a mental break down!

They sent it to China for repair! rotflmo


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Mike McGuire,

Could you explain the science as to why 100 deg F @ 90% humidity will effect pressure in a materially different way than 100 deg F @ 45% humidity.


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Could you explain the science as to why 100 deg F @ 90% humidity will effect pressure in a materially different way than 100 deg F @ 45% humidity.


All as I know is as you move inland in Australia everything gets much hotter. That includes ammunition, the rifle scope, the mudguards on the car, you name it. Many people who live close to the centre of Australia live underground and things like hotels can be built into the side of a hill.

Maybe it is like a room with an electric radiator turned on and the room is a nice 75 F. However, standing near the radiator is a different deal as it is for things near the radiator.

Remember the Australian made powders sold by Hodgdon were made for Australian conditions.

If you put ammunition (or anything else)out in the sun at a 100 F when closer to the coast it gets nowhere near as hot as if you do it in inland Australia. I only mentioned lack of humidity as a possible reason for the strong radiant heat. I think the humidity in the outback can be a lot lower than 45%.
 
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Well since both TX and CA can be humid or dry and Africa can be humid or dry and I suspect that inanimate objects such as brass and powder in a near sealed environment can't likely tell the difference...I think will call #8 close enough Wink


Mike

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Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.




What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
 
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Well since both TX and CA can be humid or dry and Africa can be humid or dry and I suspect that inanimate objects such as brass and powder in a near sealed environment can't likely tell the difference...I think will call #8 close enough Wink


You may well be right when comparing Texas and California to Africa.

In fact my experience with people from other countries, including America suggest you might be right. When taken to the inland in summer for a shooting trip they all say they have never felt such heat and an expression have heard a few times is ....you feel like you will melt into the ground... An American I know in Australia is a keen shooter and has lived here for a few years always says he has never felt such heat as the inland.

Always tourists dying in summer. I think it was about 2008 when they started the closing off of Central Australia from December to end of March. I think it is also closed to the guided tours in those summer months.

I am only guessing on the humidity. For example as you move from the centre to the far North of Australia the humidity is extremely high and things don't heat up like the centre. I have heard it said that the colour of the ground has an influence and with the radiant heat being higher in the red dirt country than the black soil country. I think there is some truth in that although the back soil country I have shot on is not as far inland but still a fair way inland.

In the case of Texas/California Vs Africa could it be the way ammo is stored when shooting in Africa. Is it left more in a vehicle in Africa.
 
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Not science but experience; radiant heat in dry air at altitude has an effect. I suspect the science might say UV factor is the reason.
I can also say I never picked up a wrench in upstate NY that had been left in the sun and burned my hand on a 90degree day. I can’t even begin to count all the times I was burned on a 90 day in Sw Colorado. I presume the difference is the radiant heat of the sun. I would also presume that water in the atmosphere retards the UV effects somewhat. I also know that the same thing happens with a gun left in the sun or even carried in the sun for hours. I can’t comment on the difference in pressure that could result from that factor as never tested it. I just learned to work and shoot with leather gloves to avoid being burned.


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I can’t comment on the difference in pressure that could result from that factor as never tested it.



The Extreme powders made a difference in Australia. What was quite common all those years ago was blokes belting the rifle bolt against the bumper bar of the vehicle. Big Grin The problem was always with reloaders living in Sydney or up and down the coast, never with the blokes who lived in the inland towns.

Shooting in summer in Australia is very common. One reason being the Christmas break and also the best time for the property owners. Also spotlight shooting is a lot more pleasant in the summer than the winter.
 
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i am tired of gun companies marketing consumer products instead of making more guns. my k95s (3 on order) are back ordered 2 plus years Mad

Mike



I thought it wasn't about the gun. It's a lifestyle ... right!


You fanboys have been sold a bill of goods. And you lap it up like little puppies!!

rotflmo

BTW, there are A LOT of "lifestyles" us normal folks have absolutely ZERO interest in. Blaser is definitely one of them.

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What am I tired of, 2020.

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Mike, don't spoil Santa's surprise!



Big Grin

i am tired of gun companies marketing consumer products instead of making more guns. my k95s (3 on order) are back ordered 2 plus years Mad

Mike


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How about the stupid 350 legend. At least the 6.5 creed is useful.
 
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The Creedmore has to be a decent rifle, look at the balistics..I think its here to stay and Im betten I could kill elk or deer with it, but won't happen because the guns I have suited me well, the 250-3000 (2), 25-35, 30-30 (2), 7x57mm 30-06, 8mm06 Ackley, 222 Sako, 6x45 Sako, 375 Ruger, Maybe a couple of others??? I just have no need for a Creedmore, but like any of the calibers mentioned if one sticks a proper bullet in the right spot you won't need a tracker or dog to find your deer..Its not the caliber its the last nut behind the stock thats the hero or the villian! tu2


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i am tired of gun companies marketing consumer products instead of making more guns. my k95s (3 on order) are back ordered 2 plus years Mad

Mike



I thought it wasn't about the gun. It's a lifestyle ... right!


You fanboys have been sold a bill of goods. And you lap it up like little puppies!!

rotflmo

BTW, there are A LOT of "lifestyles" us normal folks have absolutely ZERO interest in. Blaser is definitely one of them.

Cool


https://store.blaser.de/en/lif...le/beautiful-things/

Big Grin

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Big Grin

i am tired of gun companies marketing consumer products instead of making more guns. my k95s (3 on order) are back ordered 2 plus years Mad

Mike


There is a straight pull or telescopic bolt joke in here somewhere.



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I am tired of.....

all of the focus on long range shooting when most cannot hit an elk at 250 yards without quivering like a dog on point....

What are you tired of??
Endless discussions of "is the .270 better than a 6.5 creed" or what???


I’m tired of people like you worrying about it.
 
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temperature sensitivity powder claims.
 
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I know way to many people here in Las Vegas who've bought into the hype of the 6.5 Creedmor. They believe it to be the end all be all and they laugh when you say that it isn't a true long range hunting caliber.
Four of these guys in the past two years have shot deer at distances they had no business shooting at and wounded deer. Not one of them was recovered. This is what bothers me. Had they been given accurate information that the rifle is good at ringing steel at long distance but on game at medium distances they would've had deer.
Two of these idiots refuse to believe the fact that the gun isn't meant to be taking deer at ranges beyond 600yds.
The whole premise of the cartridge was for long range target shooting. Not long a range hunting rifle.
 
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What am I tired of, 2020.

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I'm with the tired of the temp sensitive powder complaints.I live in the California desert about 35 miles from Death Valley. Summer long range precision rifle match: Its hot,110, your guns hot before you ever pull the trigger,your ammo is hot, sweat in your eyes,horrible mirage,usually some wind. Guys start missing and you start hearing the powder temp sensitivity excuses.I laugh cause I'm using IMR 4350 and its suppose to temp sensitive. Works like a champ for me. Have to agree with the above post about the 6.5 not being a great 600 yd plus deer round.
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Tired of people shooting at game at 1000+ yds and call it hunting. You never hear about the missed or gut shot animals.
 
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All the bear killing experts


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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Phil, I was going through some old Rifle and Handloader magazines.
I found your article in the June 2003 Handloader on Handguns and Bears.
What a great article!!
 
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Phil, I was going through some old Rifle and Handloader magazines.
I found your article in the June 2003 Handloader on Handguns and Bears.
What a great article!!


Thanks, I am writing one now about my 9mm incident and the testing I did prior to deciding to carry it. It will be in next year's Gun Digest.
I offered it to Wolfe Publishing but was told that "no one is interested in handguns and bears"


Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
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how great Rem. 700s are after trigger issues, extractor issues, bolt handle issues, etc. etc. etc.
 
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No one is interested!!
Must be magazines are only targeting groups of people I don't know about.
Anyone can test a plastic gun at the range. How many have first hand knowledge of how guns actually perform when put to the test.
Strange world I guess. Roll Eyes
 
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I am a fan of the 6.5 CM and Blasers.

I am also a fan of push feed 700's, CRF 98's and 70s and lever guns.

I shoot long range, and I shoot short range.

I killed a Barbery sheep in West Texas in February at 400 yards from the top of a big mesa that is next to I-10.

I have also killed a lot of stuff at 80 yards.

Don't care what you shoot, or what you shoot it with. I don't get upset because I don't like someone else does.

A lot of the guys I work with are die-hard bowhunters. There are 4 hunters in that group, and all of them lost animals this year. This used to really piss me off, but maybe it was a bad year.

I have been asymptimatic for covid twice. Been scared to death of it all year, but it didn't really do anything to me. I get a lot of Vitamin D via a Sperti-Sun lamp and I take quinine when I feel bad. Scared for my family, and my parents and kids.

There are probably a million other things to be unhappy about, but I am a happy person and I refuse to let the world get me down.

I have a good job, a good military retirement and a healthy family and good health myself.

World is doing fine, and this tough time will pass.

No reason to cry over what you can not control.
 
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