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How about we just cut to the chase here, and toss everything else in the dust bin and own and shoot nothing but 9.3x62's? With all the Empirical Data that has been given, anything that walks the planet falls dead in their tracks when a 9.3x62 is taken from its case, no need to fire a shot. Think of how much easier life would be, rifle manufacturers would only have to produce rifles in one chambering and the ammo manufacturers would only have to worry about the best loadings for a 286 grain bullet. Game laws world wide cpould be streamlined, there would be no more minimum or maximum calibers, everyone would be shooting the same caliber. Think how easy it would make life for taxidermists, everything brought to them would have that perfect 9.3 hole in them, so they would know going in how much damage they would have to repair. What amazes me however, is why it took so long for the world to realize just exactly how perfect the 9.3x62 is, in the not so perfect world of hunting. Hopefully all the old pathetic rifles that are not chambered for magic round, will bring their owners enough money as pieces of scrap, to be able to mend their poor misguided ways and purchase a 9.3x62. Even the rocks don't last forever. | ||
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CHC, You noticed that too !!! DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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I ain't a troll, I am just following the present line of thought. First it was the 9.3 vresus the Whelen, now its the 9.3 versus the 375 H&H. How does what I posted constitute trolling? People got on to me in the 9.3 vs. Whelen thread because they thought I was taking things to serious, and that most of the thread was done tongue in cheek. Now your calling me a troll, when none of us, including myself is going to try and compare the performance of the 9.3 to a 416 Rigby or 458 Lott. If I am a troll, your an idiot. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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You're! Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Have a fun time with your troll sign, it does not prove that your not an idiot. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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CHC, I know what you mean. I had to start being more careful about when and where I took my 9.3x62 out of the truck. Once, at the mere sight of it, I had a coyote just rolled over tits up, and about the same time a raven just fell out of the sky, dead when it hit the ground, and a silver salmon jumped out onto the sand bar, and an eagle ate the guts and head, and left the rest for me. Watching all that action, I was afraid to load the chamber, because no telling what may have happened.  As I recall, it was a full moon, and I couldn't have taken a shot anyway, for fear of a ricochet punching a hole in it.KB ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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At least the 9.3 will finally put the pathetic 270 and 45-70 out of their collective miseries. z1r, are you and DaMan butthole buddies???? Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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I get u Crazy! I was asking about a caliber change and I got alot of suggestions to change to the 9.3x62. Ain't got no issues w/ it. But it ain't the end all to be all of cartridges. It's what ever floats your boat! The things you see when you don't have a gun. NRA Endowment Life Member Proud father of an active duty Submariner... Go NAVY! | |||
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I know this thread is tong in cheek. But,... This ctg hype is nothing new, back in the day there was all the hype about the 270. What the heck did we need a new 277 bullet for? Or 338 for that matter? Then, Why not? As for the Whelen and 9.3 its all been said, and I wont fight the trend. I have enough guns for the duration but I think there might be a 22-250 and 9.3 sometime in my future. Maybe, cash flow is not what it used to be. So, maybe. I have to say, never in my lifetime would I ever expect so many choices in calibers and fine guns. I still remember those crappy 1970's when Winchester and Remington were in a competition to see who could build the worse junk and you had a small handful of ctg's and models to choose. Today, sky is the limit. My dad went his whole life an avid hunter with one gun! Imagine that, and he was happy too. Enjoy. These are truly the golden years for gun ownership  | |||
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I can see eliminating everything 338 through 375 in my collection. Even though I kinda look at the 9.3x62 as basically a big bullet out of a 30-06 "type" case, I still have a hard time getting myself to rid the safe of all 30-06. I kinda like 243, 30-06, 9.3x62, 416, with the 9.3x62 filling the gap for everything between the other two. I reckon if I swallowed my pride with the 30-06 and overlooked my ego with the 416, I could live simple and be happy with nothing but one 243 and one 9.3x62 Later | |||
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I'm sorry, take that dick out of your mouth, I can't hear you. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I can see why a guy would like the 9.3.. But i havent felt the need for one, nor do I expect to any time soon. I never met a gun I didnt like, but that particular round doesnt get me excited. Just my .02 c. AK-47 The only Communist Idea that Liberals don't like. | |||
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Should of, Could of, Would of..... all a moot point. The sad fact of the matter is that the .358 calibers never really caught on. A crying shame too. Not many available rifle options, 1-16 twist, and a lack of factory ammunition support (face it, the general hunting/shooting population utilizes ammo off the shelf) all contributed to the caliber being unpopular. Add to the above, that most limit themselves to the 30-06. If they need/require bigger, the .338 is the next logical step.... and if even larger is required, stepping up to the .375 H&H makes the most sense. I believe the 9.3x62mm has become popular on our side of the pond for the simple reason that it's legal in several African countries. And then of course it's popular in Europe. The rifles chambered for the .366 are lighter, cheaper, and produce less felt recoil than the .375 H&H, and ammunition is readily available, and costs less, thus their attraction and re-gained popularity. | |||
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This maybe as a good time as any to ask- The new Ruger African 9.2 lists a 1/10 twist. Is that a misprint? Seems a bit fast for that bore size. Obviously dont want 1/16, but 10 seems fast. http://www.ruger.com/products/...eAfrican/models.html Then maybe the 9.3 guys are not even reading this thread. | |||
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If anyone is a dick lick it is you. Your accusing me of being a troll, simply because I started this thread in fun, because other folks were supposedly startinmg threads in fun about how great the 9.3 is over the whelen and now the 375 H&H. At no point in either of those threads did I say the 9.3 wasn't a good cartridge, nor did I deny the fact that the 35's never really got the attention from the arms and ammunition manufacturers in this country that they should have, BUT, the 9.3x62 is not the Do-All/Be-All/End-All of rifle cartridges. Now troll that up your ass, DICK! Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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IIRC, the Mauser standard for the 9.3x62 is 1/14 twist. CZ on the other hand uses 1/10 twist with excellent results. It appears that Ruger agrees with CZ. In regards to the 358s, I never liked the 1/16 twist USA standard. Ruger built a few using 1/14 twist which I did like for shooting the heavier bullets. Best | |||
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And I laughed like hell when I first read it! Nothing wrong with a bit of good natured ribbing and IMO that's what the other threads were as well. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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We forgot the #1 advantage of an all 9.3 x 62 world... We would never have to worry about our ammo making the trip over to Africa ! DRSS(We Band of Bubba's Div.) N.R.A (Life) T.S.R.A (Life) D.S.C. | |||
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CHC, What are these "other known rifle chamberings" to which you referred?  | |||
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 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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On a more serious note, the 9.3x62 hits almost as hard as a 375 H&H but does so with considerably less recoil. No magic involved, of course, as it uses a lighter load. People routinely download a 375 so a 9.3 is just sort of that in a trimmer package. No great mystery, but nothing to sneeze at either. Mike, likewise, in the US most folks have never heard of it, save for the participants on these boards. But I have one and love it... | |||
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It strikes me as a bit odd that you'd post the link to your business along with a paragraph like this one. Who in the world would want to hunt with you with a attitude like that? | |||
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The 9.3x62 is only perfect for about 75% of the world's hunting. One would still need a 7x64 for game smaller or further away. | |||
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You know Scott other people have made similar comments like that, and my standard answer, is that if comments I make on an InterNerd chat room is the deciding factor on whether a person will book with me or not, then I don't want that Son-Of-A-Bitch to book with me in the first place. I am a Texan First, an American Second, and By God, I have a right to my opinion, and I don't care what people think. My PERSONAL OPINIONS on ANY subject have NOTHING to do with the job I do for my clients as a guide. Is There Any Of The Preceeding That You Have Trouble Understanding????? Did not think so. The sorriest humans I have ever met or dealt with judge people by their posts on the internet. Such behaviors show a complete lack of character and upbringing. A person has to be judged by ACTUAL face to face dealings with them, anything less is BULLSHIT. Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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The other calibre that gets a good run on our forums is the 404 Jeffery. But out in the real world it is rarer than hen's teeth. The enthusiast buys differently. In Australia the 223, 22/250, 243 and 308 rule. Yet amoung shooters I asssociate with none of them own one of those calibres  | ||
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What rifles? I would definately consider a 9.3x62 if they were anywhere near common around here. Last time I saw one they were going for $499 on the shelves new in a CZ 550. Now there is only a couple at most on Gunbroker and they are $899 (someone is on crack.) Ruger should chamber it in the Hawkeye or winchester in the Mod 70. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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So it is written, so it is done. Ruger 9.3x62 | |||
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Interesting. http://ruger.com/products/m77H...pecSheets/37113.html I meant the regular Hawkeye but for the same price as a CZ 550 American I like the Ruger African better. Regular Ruger Hawkeyes go for $550-$619 here. -------------------- THANOS WAS RIGHT! | |||
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This whole thread makes the Baby Jeasus cry. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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There are a lot of 9.3x62 fans on AR. More than any other site I've been on. I have one but haven't used it on game yet. | |||
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Yes it does, simply because he is afraid that the 9.3x62 will replace him as the Right Hand Of God.  Even the rocks don't last forever. | |||
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Not crying, just joy. The 9.3X62 is a "What Would Jesus Shoot?" round, or WWJS for short. | |||
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Jesus would hhoot a: glock a Remington 870 and a Pre 64 Winchester in 30/06. And a Boswell 500 Ne just to stay inthe good graces of Elmer Keith DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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Does this mean I have to get rid of my 9.3x64 Brenneke's? Do they use too much powder and are wasteful? They don't hold enough cartridges? I stayed out of the Whelen thread because I am extremely biased against the Whelen with no solid reason justifying my extreme bias. Ruger is coming out with the x62. I may have to get one, just because. In any instance where I would consider a 35 Whelen, I would rather have 9.3. If that is too much, then I would take one of my 338-06's. | |||
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I kind of think Jesus was a Sig kind of guy. Enjoyed a nice sxs shotgun, and he rebarreled his pre 64 Model 70s to 9.3X62. | |||
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Nah, Jesus has to be a 1911 guy because he gave us John Moses Browning!  NRA Endowment Life member CZ 550 American 9.3 X 62 Mauser/ Leupold VX-3 2.5-8 x 36 CZ 550 Safari Classic .458 Lott | |||
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