new deer gun

07 November 2003, 13:01

CDL

new deer gun

I am hung between the 300 rum or the 7wsm what do yall think? My max shot is 350 to 400 at the very end of the river bottom.I shoot a ruger 243 heavy barrel it is goode but on the new land I got I want more nock down power any help would be great.

07 November 2003, 13:08

stubblejumper

I own two 300rums and only use them for elk and moose hunting as they are much more powerful than necessary for deer.The 7mmwsm would be a good choice but for the smaller southern deer even the 25-06 would offer plenty of power.

[ 11-07-2003, 04:10: Message edited by: stubblejumper ]

07 November 2003, 13:33

fredj338

My vote would also go w/ the 7WSM/150gr bullets. Save the .300RUM for bigger game, unless you just got to have one. [Big Grin]

07 November 2003, 16:52

smallfry

well if its between the 300 rum and the 7wsm... it must be a 270 winchester! Thats my choice [Big Grin]

08 November 2003, 02:57

wpm

quote:
Originally posted by smallfry:
well if its between the 300 rum and the 7wsm... it must be a 270 winchester! Thats my choice

Amen...... Those woods in North Carolina must be a lot more open than the woods down here in Alabama. My longest whitetail deer shot to date: 70yds. 270 or 30-30 has always worked. No sense spending money on burning powder and bruising shoulders......

08 November 2003, 03:10

Mark R Dobrenski

Smallfry-you da man.......took the words out of my mouth. Get yourself a 270 J.O.C.

"GET TO THE HILL"

Dogz

08 November 2003, 04:29

Jay Gorski

quote:
Originally posted by CDL:
I am hung between the 300 rum or the 7wsm what do yall think? My max shot is 350 to 400 at the very end of the river bottom.I shoot a ruger 243 heavy barrel it is goode but on the new land I got I want more nock down power any help would be great.

CDL, All the more reason to get yourself a 7mm-08, but if you think you need 300fps more, get the 7mmWSM, 7mms and short actions all the way. [Wink]

Jay

08 November 2003, 04:31

whtailtaker

Another answer to your question-
I guess you hunt Eastern NC?

I for myself- being that I have hunted this area
used a 30-06 with 180gr ammo
had no problems with knock down power -

I took a Whitetail @ 542 paces using the below Ammo-in lots of open country
F E D E R A L ï¿½
No. Primer-210
No. 180- Grains/Grams-11.66
Style Hi-shok Soft Point
Caliber 30-06 Springfield
Velocity in Feet Per Second
(to nearest 10fps)
Muzzle 2700
Yds 100 2470
Yds 200 2250
Yds 300 2040
Yds 400 1850
Yds 500 1660
I hit him mid chest on the lt side
it had enough punch to churn up both lungs and lodge in the lt side of his neck just below his ear-

I retreived 134 gr propeller shaped projectile-

hope this helps- I only use 180gr Ammo

or look up stats on this site
http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2e.rifle_cartridges.htm

whtailtaker

08 November 2003, 04:32

Jay Gorski

quote:
Originally posted by smallfry:
well if its between the 300 rum and the 7wsm... it must be a 270 winchester! Thats my choice

Come on smallfry, 270 comes before 7mm, not in between. [Big Grin]

Jay

08 November 2003, 05:10

smallfry

No jay... the 7 is in the middle on a 270 [Big Grin]

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Honestly... the 270 has always been a real sleeper for me. When I was a boy in AK I took my first moose with a 270. Its got the velo to be a magnum without the magnum name. I still hunt with a 300 but, less. If I think the 270 is outta place 9 times out of 10 I will feel out of place with a 300 and just go strait to my 375.

09 November 2003, 05:53

<Steve in MI>

I own a 300 rum and just bought a 270 WSM. They both have benifts. Question is will you ever get the chance to hunt larger game?? For a one gun deal the Rum would work fine, if is a bit large for close shots on deer but you are not under gunned for just about all North America game. Buy them both [Big Grin]

The Rum is hard on barrels if you plan on doing a fair amount of bench shooting. 1500 shots would more than likely show serious degrading of accuracy [Smile]

09 November 2003, 07:29

stubblejumper

The 300ultramag is by no means a good cartridge for a one gun owner.The main advantage it offers is very flat trajectory that is most useful for long range shooting by people with much better than average shooting skills.To utilize that advantage you need to practise a great deal to develop and maintain the necessary long range shooting skills.Since barrel life is 1500 rounds or less a lot of practise will result in rebarreling on a regular basis.As well recoil is quite stiff which makes it uncomfortable for many people to practise with it.Many people that don't shoot often develop flinches from the recoil.I own two 300 ultramags and am very happy with them but I have several other rifles that I do most of my practising with.

09 November 2003, 11:35

bearstalker

If you're going to toss in the 270 Win, then you might as well get the 270 WSM. More power. [Big Grin]

10 November 2003, 04:38

Wstrnhuntr

These guys will get you into trouble, what you need is a 7mm STW. That way you wont feel undergunned against them life threatening whitetail attacks from 700 yds. [Big Grin]