Hi all,

Can anyone venture a guess as to value here: Winchester Classic New Haven gun in a factory synthetic stock. Blued. Caliber 270 and serial number G24XXXX.

Not a scratch on her and the bolt is jeweled. At least I think it is a factory stock but I could be wrong. It is solid though.

Action cycles smooth and the safety is nice and quiet. I would rate it 98%.

Thanks!

$500

That's a good rifle. However it is the most common chambering in the most common variation of the M70 G series classic.

Thank you.

I think $500 is too low.

Go to your local gun store and price rifles.

For $500, you are looking at cheapo Marlin bolt actions, Ruger Americans, and Remington 710s with their press fit barrels.

If not in a huge hurry, I bet you could get $600-650 for your rifle.

Yes, $500 is pretty low. That is the price folks hope to find them for, but $6-$7C is more on target. If you could post some pics, that would help. The price for the new ones is getting up there. I love the new ones, but they don't have the good ole model 70 trigger.

I have thought the Winchester Classics are a much better rifle than the price reflects.
As Duckear says they are priced with Ruger Americans and the like but functionally and aesthetically it is better.
Better to be buying one than selling.
I have a stainless 375 I only gave $600.

Mark

My pricing method is to go to Gun Broker, click on "Advanced" Searches and then click on "Completed" auctions. I enter the description of the item, like "Model 70 Winchester Classic" and click on "Search".

The vast majority of items listed will have no bids, and of the ones with bids, many will have not reached the reserve price, but by going through the ones which did result in a sale, a good picture of the average price of the gun in question emerges.

Over the past few months I have watched two M70 classic SM's, one 30-06 & and one .270, sit on local dealers used for $500 & $550 respectively and neither has moved.

During that same time period there has been 3 of this exact rifle on Gunbroker in the same $500 - $550 price range and not one has gotten a bid over the duration of multiple listings.

If the rifle was a different caliber or perhaps had a 5 digit SN add a few $. A short action add a few $. If it were stainless add a few more $; a stainless short action or stainless H&H length add $$.

The point being there are many real examples of $500 being the upper limit of a realistic market clearing price for a M70 classic SM in .270.

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Originally posted by DavidReed:
Over the past few months I have watched two M70 classic SM's, one 30-06 & and one .270, sit on local dealers used for $500 & $550 respectively and neither has moved.

During that same time period there has been 3 of this exact rifle on Gunbroker in the same $500 - $550 price range and not one has gotten a bid over the duration of multiple listings.

If the rifle was a different caliber or perhaps had a 5 digit SN add a few $. A short action add a few $. If it were stainless add a few more $; a stainless short action or stainless H&H length add $$.

The point being there are many real examples of $500 being the upper limit of a realistic market clearing price for a M70 classic SM in .270.

It seems difficult to find a classic 70 action by itself for $500, much less an entire classic rifle. Even the push feed 70's are getting hard to find for less than $600. Any classic CRF action M70 in good condition in the $500 range is far from typical these days.

The book may say 500, but that is NOT what they are selling for. I have not seen a Classic priced under 6-700 in a few years, many up around 1000+

Even Rangers and Shadows (the bottom line, blind magazine, budget guns that sold for 300 NEW) are getting priced at 4-600$. XTR's usually in the 7-900 range.

Prices are getting pretty stupid for anything with the Winchester name. They're my favorite rifles, both CRF and PF, but I have not bought one in a while, I refuse to pay those prices. BUT, someone is, because I'll see them at a store one week and gone the next, even with a massively opverpriced sticker.

A lot has to do with the time of the year, and the saviness of the crowd you are trying to sell to.

You will sell for more money a few months before the local deer season than in the middle of the winter.

Also, the online forums, such as here, are not the place to sell plain guns for top money. Better off selling in your local market to someone who wants a better deal than he or she can get at the local retail store.

I guess I'm way out of touch or too cheap, I've bought no less than four M70's since 2012. Last M670 Ranger I bought off of GB was less than $300 by the time shipping and transfers were done. Same with a M70 6 digit SS Classic with synthetic stock and Burris Fullfield scope, it was less than $500 with shipping and transfer. I did pay $650 for a M70 SS Classic .30-06 FWT barreled action but I had a plan for it and I wouldn't take less than $1200 for it these days. The last one was a M70 EW .270 Win that I bought brand new for a hair over $900.

The problem is everytime Winchester changes something everyone thinks their rifle just increased in value. First it was Pre-64's, then XTR, Classics, and now Pre Portugal. The thing is certain rifles do deserve an increase in value, but the majority do not.

Cabela's in Thornton has a 670, with a price tag of like 499 if I remember right. Bass Pro has been sitting on a Ranger in 270 for at least a year that is now "reduced" to 459.99. The plain jane, no jeweled bolt, blind mag basic M70.

Of course all in all, EVERY brand of EVERY gun is going up in price. Dealers got used to the scare buying frenzy prices and refuse to drop the prices back to reality.

Last one I bought was a push feed in 30-06 for $350. That was three months ago.

There are always good deals to be found for anything. I've found a few sporterized G33/40's and one Vz33 over the past few years from $250-$400. However, most I find are three times that. Because one is vigilant, and finds good deals, doesn't make what he was willing to pay the market value.

As stated, time of year is a big deal. It has been difficult to find New Haven Classics (CRF) guns under $800.00 unless it is in .270 or 30-06 and those seem to always get at least $650.00 Make it stainless wood in any caliber and you are over $1k. The New Haven Super Grades seem to be getting 1100 to 1500 depending on caliber which more or less matches current production, but they sell much faster. I just bought a super grade New Haven gun in .338 in very good/excellent condition for 900 but, only because of caliber and time of year. I would wager to say I could get 12 with little trouble in Aug/Sept.