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Can someone help identify a rifle. I bought it at an estate sale.

The action was made in Austria, Mannlicher Schoenauer, 7.63 x 63 cal. In Holland & Holland hard case, I was told they are called crock case, Holland & Holland 98 New Bond Street, London.

The rifle case is in fairly good condition, outside green canvas with leather trim, handle and two straps in good condition.

The rifle is a "takedown" rifle, the stock is one piece, the bottom of the action hooks into a metal tang in the back of the stock to anchor the action and there is a pin that holds the barrel into the front of the stock, about 4" from the end of the stock. The action and barrel are not removable. It also has a removable magazine. It has never been drilled or tapped for scope mounts. It has two leaf sights, one folds down. There is some slight pitting but not bad. The bore appears to the naked eye to be in perfect shape. It has cleaning rods inside the stock accessible from steel butt plate with hinged part.

There are two paper tags in the case, one identifies the caliber as 7.62 x 63 and the other identifies it a 30-06 the tags are paper with Holland & Holland, Ltd., 13 Bruton Street, W.l They seem to have been glued at one time inside the case. It was sent to the factory to change the front sight, which is in an envelope and identified as "original front sight"

The name I Malcolmson is on the outside of the case, it seems to be stamped into the canvas.

I have owned this rifle for about 12 or 15 years every several years I will take out of the safe just to "pet" it. Started to take it to the range and shoot it, but never did. When you mount this rifle with your eyes closed and then open your eyes, the sights are right where your are looking, I wish my double fit that well.

I am probably going to sell this rifle and would like to get some ideas what it might be worth.

If anyone knows someone who might be familiar with Holland & Holland rifles, I would like to contact them.
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Posts: 527 | Location: New Orleans,La. | Registered: 27 September 2003Reply With Quote
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IF it is truly marked 7.63X63", it could well be chambered for the .30/'06 cartridge! In most of Europe, the .30/'06 was/is known as the "7.62X63mm"...... 7.62 and 7.63 are both .30-caliber bullet size.....

I see yours came with paperwork that identifies it in both U.S. terminology and European - .30/'06 & 7.63X63mm! Since it is a takedown, your question is simple to resolve. Take it apart, take a .30/'06 cartridge and slip it into the rifle's chamber. It should fit perfectly! You can probably remove the round after this test just by pointing the muzzle up. It should slide out. If not, GENTLY pust it out with a cleaning rod.....

You need to get it appraised- try New England Custom Guns or

Holland & Holland
10 East 40th Street, Suite 1910
New York NY 10016
Tel: 1.212.752.7755
Fax: 1.212.752.6975
E-mail: gunroomny@hollandandholland.com

I would guess a true Holland & Holland is worth quite a bit!







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Posts: 4386 | Location: New Woodstock, Madison County, Central NY | Registered: 04 January 2005Reply With Quote
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Pictures would help, as would the proof marks.

The takedown system sounds like a factory M-S. However, I have never heard of one being chambered for .30-06. Factory takedown models were pre-1923, and they did not start chambering for .30-06 until 1924.

Are there any markings actually on the rifle to indicate H&H (or anyone else) as having customized or marketed this rifle? The labels on the case are helpful, but not always reflective of the actual builder or retailer.
 
Posts: 2036 | Location: Roebling, NJ 08554 | Registered: 20 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Them boys across the Pond get a fair price for them H&H's !!!.

Example a Dbl Rifle in .577 runs better than 180K in USD !. If you want exhibition grade wood shipping handling or any extras it's even more !.

Ouch their pricey now days .
 
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