Greetings, Does anyone out there shooting long range have any experience with the Deviant Hunter action from Defiance Machine?
Judging from their website they sound like they make a high quality product and are a quality company.

I have not ordered one, but I have talked to them on the phone and they are super professional.

Not the same idea I have when I call other people with older and bigger reputations (Surgeon).

That and they will give retired mils, fire and LE a discount.

Chad Dixon is a gunsmith in South Dakota, he builds a ton of sniper type rifles. Call him and ask him what he thinks.

He builds them all.

Defiance actually has quite a longer history than Surgeon. Glen Harrison (sp?) started the company after starting Nesika, making very good actions, selling to Dakota, then several years later starting up Defiance Machine. He's been in the action business for many years and has always made a very good product.

I had not heard of them but loved the Nesika.

Did I hear the shot show youtube correct? They are adding a CRF? Or is that just me dreaming?

Yep, you heard it right. I don't have any personal experience with them but they just introduced a new CRF option for thier actions with a 3-position safety, integral one piece mount and recoil lug that looks stunning.

Oh I want one of these!



Terry

Wow. Now Thats a great looking action. Wow. I wonder if they can mill the base for 20 moa down angle ? Very, very nice!!

Interesting looking action.

Thanks Terry. Wanted to make sure my senior mind wasn't running amuck.

Do we know how much $$$ for one?

I would think them a tough sell if they cost much more than a clean OM70 to build on.

Rich

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Originally posted by Cold Trigger Finger:
Wow. Now Thats a great looking action. Wow. I wonder if they can mill the base for 20 moa down angle ? Very, very nice!!

I believe the base is 20 MOA as standard.

I like it! I want one!

About $1700 I heard

Seems kind of funny naming the action DEVIANT (see pic).

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Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
Do we know how much $$$ for one?

I would think them a tough sell if they cost much more than a clean OM70 to build on.

Rich

Defiance is the top competitor in the tactical rifle 700 clone realm. The concept that they are producing a mausified/winchesterinated rifle is kind of confusing for me.

Unlike their competitors (Pierce, Bighorn, Stiller, Bat, and Surgeon to name a few) this is purely a hunting action.

I personally would buy one. Defiance makes a top quality product. They give a huge retired/active duty military discount and they are nice guys to talk to over the phone.

Buying a M70 and rebuilding it top flight takes a good bit of money. Any CRF M70 made in New Haven from about 1958 on is rat-fucked pretty hard.

This is a brand-new action made right the first time, and you are going to pay a little more for that. I am betting based on their 700 clone prices the price point is about $1450-1850.

There are better options available & TRUE to every sense of the word compared to an action out of MT.

Kelbley's
Borden
Barnard
(in no particular order)
The above mentioned actions are true,timed correctly the first time out of the box.

From this small sample, and reading tactical rifle competition results they appear to be another rather expensive alternative to a standard Remington 700. With 700's going for $400-$500, this one is going to have a tough time saleswise; especially if they require the same song and dance prep as others. I like the part where they come without a trigger so you can "choose your own". That's adspeak for we saved another $200, but the price does not reflect the omission..

Everybody and their cocker spaniel has a CNC Mill and Lathe and can build about the same bricky clone of a 700 these days.

It is likely a well made action, but there are currently about a hundred other brands, all well established with a good reputation, and all about the same price. And, many of them have found that they still have to take in machine work to pay the overhead each month.

I wish them luck...

ISS

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Originally posted by Dans40XC:
There are better options available & TRUE to every sense of the word compared to an action out of MT.

Kelbley's
Borden
Barnard
(in no particular order)
The above mentioned actions are true,timed correctly the first time out of the box.

But none of them are CRF

I have two of the Defiance actions in the shop today, and more on order. They are EXCELLENT. I have known Glen Harrison since before moving Nesika to SD. These actions are the crème de la crème of custom actions. The people building hunting rifles on these actions are not the least bit interested in the M70 of any vintage.

I'm somewhat surprised by the negative and blaise comments. The Defiance name is a turn off . But , that's the name of the company.
This action has the potential to bridge the gap between a target action and a hunting action.
As lots of guys like me that despise pf actions but really want the precision of a target action.
The integral 20 moa rail , combined with the non rotating extractor, fixed ejector and crf are the ticket . it would be awesome if it was available with dbm .
A model 700 action, by the time its blue printed , lapped ect. Runs around 1400$ and its still a pf. Yuk. As the Rail is integral it aids in stiffening the receiver AND it never needs be worried about breaking or coming loose. For a rifle like a 338 RUM or a 375 RUM that can do double duty as a rough Alaskan hunting rifle and also a long range rifle , It appears to be a perfect action. . I do wish the trigger was a simpler affair.

I wonder if he will do one without a bridge. Maybe that is as simple as some saw and file work?

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Originally posted by Cold Trigger Finger:
I'm somewhat surprised by the negative and blaise comments. The Defiance name is a turn off . But , that's the name of the company.

Yes, but why call the action a 'Deviant' (which was the actual comment above, not the company)

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Originally posted by DuaneinND:
I have two of the Defiance actions in the shop today, and more on order. They are EXCELLENT. I have known Glen Harrison since before moving Nesika to SD. These actions are the crème de la crème of custom actions. The people building hunting rifles on these actions are not the least bit interested in the M70 of any vintage.

My gunsmith's sentiments to a tee

I've got three rifles built on Defiance actions and I couldn't be more pleased. The only drawback is the high bolt lift sometimes necessitates the use of higher rings so the bolt handle does not interfere with the eye piece. My next build will be on one of their new crf actions.

I just finished barreling a Defiance Rebel and it is as good as any action of the type that I have used. I like the looks of the Deviant. The bolt handle is not as homely as the one on the Rebel I have here. I doubt that I would buy one for myself (cheapskate) but I think it's a good looking action. Regards, Bill.

My gunsmith says they are without a doubt the best action out there by a long way.