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Famous for killing big cats , but not for sporting or recreational purposes. | |||
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I would think killing a maneater would be rather sporting, no? | |||
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From my understanding JC despatched his man-eaters simply cause he was asked to do so by the British United Provinces Gov. | |||
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I shot a black bear that bit and tried dragging a young lady off two days before I hunted it down and shot it. Yea it was exciting but the bear wasn't a proven man eater. | |||
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Touchdown 88 Thanks for posting that, beautiful rifle! trax if you have nothing nice to say or remotely on topic try keeping your airhole shut. If anyone here read any of Corbetts writings you would know he was a Sportsman who lived to hunt and enjoy the outdoors. trax makes him sound like a bug exterminator, obviously jealous or uninformed. Once again beautiful rifle with an amazing history. | |||
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So let me get this straight. Hunting an animal that poses no danger other than risking tripping over a tree root or falling out of a tree stand is more sporting than hunting a large, very dangerous animal that is a proven killer of men? One is "sporting" and the other is pest control? | |||
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If I'm not mistaken, this was the rifle he was using on an elephant push when he suffered severe muzzle blast from another hunter on the same elephant. Plenty of sport for me and 99% more sporting than most of the NA hunts. IMHO.  | |||
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BUG exterminator?...not at all, seems your feelings are hurt. however, I don't romanticise and delude myself about how people lived and worked in those days. being a Colonel in the British indian Army, EJC took a battalion to Europe for WW1, and previous to that was commissioned by the British in the Sikh Wars. exterminating bugs ,nOT, exterminating pesky humans, yes. and when he wasnt asked to kill pesky humans by the British gov. he was asked to kill pesky man-eater cats by the British colonial Gov. One could well say they called on him for his extermination skill services in either case... 
Indeed he was a hunter & sportsman no denying that, but the British United Provinces Gov. didn't particularly seek a sportsman, rather more clinically, they needed someone(Corbett and various unnamed others) at times to effectively exterminate problematic cats in the provinces. NO different to when the British attained the services of like people to kill problematic cats around the railroad camps in Uganda. WDM Bell made mention of a Sikh soldier and his son who together killed 90 lions with a Rigby .275 bore. They were bounty hunters pure and simple, not sportsman. Mr. Bell himself early on, once worked for Uganda Rail for the task of exterminating pesky cats. | |||
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Then apparently you haven't read Corbett's writing trax. The rifle was used for far more than work at the behest of the crown, but it matters not you are someone I'll not argue with, I haven't the time. You seem to troll for these kinds of conflict. | |||
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Trax occasionally leaves the political forum...... I am by definition a sport hunter.....I don't require the game that I kill to supply meat to my family I also won't turn down the chance to kill varmints....eradicate if you will If a cattle farmer called upon me with a prairie dog town that hosted a 1k population of p-dogs I would call it a crying shame if I only brought 750 rounds of ammo and not say......1500 ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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Corbetts is a rifle with an interesting history, but I don't get all choked-up and emotional about it. The rifle is not the man,...nor is that Rigby the only .275 bore he owned. and like it or not, EJC is made well famous for the particular noted task of exterminating 33 pesky cats. and VERY much part of the reason he was gifted that particular Rigby .275 Im also not like those people that go all 'apeshit' about Bells .275 bore rifle when they see it, since the Rigby ledger entry date, indicates highly likely it wasn't even the particular .275 bore rifle he famously slayed 800 bulls with. Yet you will hear irrational emotionally charged people criticising to say things like; " How could Selby bring himself to sell a rifle with such a grand hunting history"...  Some dreamy nostalgists seem to treat rifles from Corbett,Bell,Roosevelt,etc.. with a sort of supreme idolising awe or reverance. Q./ - CAN anyone confirm if it was Paul Roberts of Rigby fame, who had the Corbett .275 hidden in a private collection for so long? | |||
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Word for word here is the quote from your post above. In my eyes makes you sound like an idiot. If you've read any of Corbett's writing this is an absolute lie on your part. I have no attachment to the rifle emotional or otherwise. I find your quote an attempt to "troll up a response" or just negative and attempting to minimize what could have been a meaningful post by the OP. Be nice if you'd just start your own negative posts so others who share your views could chime in but in my opinion it's rude to turn someone elses well meaning post into your demeaning and insulting dribble. Try being decent? | |||
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Trax I do not believe he was paid for killing man-eaters . He did this as a service , to help . Like many others I find this rifle interesting because of who owned it in the main . I will be in London for Christmas and plan to visit Rigby to see this rifle . | |||
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What is enscribed on the Corbett Rigby butt plaque: "Presented to Mr.J.G.Corbett by Sir J.P. Hewett K.C.S.I LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR OF THE UNITED PROVINCES IN RECOGNITION OF HIS HAVING KILLED A MAN-EATING TIGRESS AT CHAMPAWAT" Just about any write up or mention of Corbett focuses on his extermination of man eaters, rarely if ever mention of any other hunting exploits. IF one asked just about anyone (who knows of Corbett).. what would most say they famously know him for? Corbett responded to assist the colonial ruling power in the departmental required task-job of exterminating man-eaters, It was not to go recreational or sports hunting just any tiger or Leopard of choice. accordingly I don't see a lie or untruth in my statement; ... "Famous for killing big cats , but not for sporting or recreational purposes"
Snellstrom, Your views are not the only ones allowed to be posted on AR. Nothing here by me or anyone , thats stopping people admiring that rifle if they so choose. IF you feel what I have said is demeaning or insulting to EJC, then your being a little precious and over sensitive. | |||
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No matter what some people are never impressed with facts but relies on their own agenda. Having read all of Corbett's writings I would just love to handle the rifle. It would bring back many pleasant child hood memory's that his books gave me. | |||
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I'll just stand by this. Trax you are still wrong, once again read your above quote and mine. You set out to run down the OP's post, degrading the rifle with an ignorant uninformed comment. | |||
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Touchdown, thank you for the link to this outstanding rifle owned and used by one of the great gentlemen of the 20th century. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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If you aren't interested in guns, participate in another forum. Knitting might be the hobby for you Trax. Maybe a ball of yarn the Queen of England used has more appeal to you than Rifles of interesting characters in Englands past does. So get lost. | |||
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Problem is Rigby has now so much been sold, re-sold, sold again and then sold once more that the brand has been devalued IMHO. I wish the current owners well, and visited "Rigby" many years ago when it was on Pall Mall and owned by Paul Roberts. But whilst I'm not siding with Trax the rifle is, FWIW, not particularly inspiring in terms of it being anything other than a bog standard Mauser, retailed by Rigby, with an engraved disc inset into the stock. Now THIS rifle....sold at Holt's some time ago...does do a lot for me. Why? The man that owned it wn one of the last Victoria Cross awards of WWI. And in any case unusual....for that period....of being equiped with telescopic sights of contemporary time. http://auctions.holtsauctionee...o=+++73684&saletype= Although, until you viewed it, and read the name on its case you wouldn't have known. It only, therefore, sold for a reasonable amount. | |||
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He's welcome to just stay in the political forum ________________________________________________ Maker of The Frankenstud Sling Keeper Proudly made in the USA Acepting all forms of payment | |||
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I said nothing negative about the gun, (or Corbett for that matter) Snelstrom got all upset at me for stating a fact about Corbett. Corbett had much respect for cats, he preferred NOT to shoot them unless they were specifically problematic man-eaters. The record shows He shot 33 man-eaters over period of some 30yrs. HE did such extermination work for the various colonial provinces provinces as required. However, he was not an avid recreational hunter of the cats. as such He is famous for shooting man-eaters, but Corbetts real legacy is CONSERVATION. | |||
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Telling the truth about Corbett is not degrading Corbett or the rifle. HE is famous for specifically exterminating 33 problem causing man eaters, not just any 33 cats on personal recreational hunts. but such clarification upsets you? my orig. statement; "Famous for killing big cats , but not for sporting or recreational purposes." There is no lie or untruth in that, nor is it demeaning, ..so why does it upset you so much?? You are upset for no good reason. You foolishly interpreted it as 'BUG' extermination , WTF? yet myself I have never viewed it in that way, or expressed it as such. He was doing it to serve the community of ridding it of terror and to aid the British colonial provinces in their gov. departmental desire to despatch/exterminate the mankillers from the provinces they had responsibility for. So like it or not, Corbett is known famously by most as an exterminator of man-eaters. I don't view those man-eater exterminating tasks as demeaning at all, but FACT remains Corbett was not out recreationally hunting those cats. They were very specifically sanctioned kills of specific individual problem cats. but you are not happy at my posts which are in fact truthful & appropriate to the subject of Corbett. | |||
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How so? I have never really heard anyone talk or write about him being 'famous' for killing a whole heap of regular non man-eater cats on private recreational hunts. Corbetts highly renoun hunter fame, draws primarily from the 33 exterminated man-eaters, which He decided to hunt exlusively......i.e.; he decided he would not shoot a cat unless it was a troublesome man-eater. That means for a cat to be killed by him, it would not be for recreational pleasure purposes, but rather, only very specifically targeted cats, sanctioned for death only due to their 'required extermination' because of man-eating habits. Thats the truth about Corbett , but a number of people here on AR are upset about it.
A rational intelligent rational man would know that truth is a most decent & valuable thing. Anyone who shuns or ridicules the truth has a questionable agenda. | |||
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Corbet was not a front line soldier. He was in supplies or some such back up role. Even in WW1 he was over 40 years old- born in 1875. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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Corbett also shot cattle killers and hunted for sport with the British officers and aristocracy. He just did not write a lot about them but just mentioned them in passing. "When the wind stops....start rowing. When the wind starts, get the sail up quick." | |||
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By any standards Corbett was a great hunter. He successfully hunted confirmed man eating tigers and leopards on foot for over 30 years. He also had to have been a keen naturalist and obviously a good teller of stories and writer. It takes both ability and passion to do any of those. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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One could also say the Phil has followed Corbett down a similar path. While he may not hunt known man eaters his risks are still very real. Phil is also an excellent writer and very keen naturalist. As for rifles, who knows, Old Ugly may fetch quite a price someday, Strangers things have happened. | |||
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 Thank you.  Touchdown I do like it. As a boy Man Eaters was true excitement to read. It certainly created a thrilling imaginary path for a youth to fallow.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN IMAGINARY PATH ?!? Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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 Well YAH ! I could have only IMAGINED I would take that path.  rogerOld age is a high price to pay for maturity!!! Some never pay and some pay and never reap the reward. Wisdom comes with age! Sometimes age comes alone.. | |||
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I have a copy of Maneaters of Kumoan on my coffee table which I have read a re-read countless times. What stands out to me throughout is his sportsmanship and care for the local people. | |||
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