Awhile back we were discussing Brno's, and I mentioned a model 22f with a full stock 23.5" barrel in 7x64. I finally had time to take some pics. It was made in 1947 and the receiver rings are intact. The mount is a quick detach Jaeger with a B&L 2-1/2 to 4x with post & crosshair reticle. The scope itself is non-adjustable, as windage is in the mount.

Very nice.

Jeff

Interesting!

I've seen that type of mount before. I can understand the windage adjustment in the mount, but how does one adjust for elevation?

Just curious!

jpb

This particular rifle is a credit to proper gunsmithing. It was obviously zeroed before it was drilled. Norma 170 gr vulkans follow a 250 yd zero using the tip of the post and a 300 yd zero using the crosshair.

The mount itself is not intended for use with a non-adjustable scope. It just happens to work fine on this one, and keeps the rifle trim.

Also this rifle is not for sale, least I would own it. He has a rather sadistic personality you know, show it, won't sell it..I hate that.

I just bought a 22F in 7x57 from an elderly gentlemen and Judge on this board who took his way with me and forced the sale..I feel used and thrown away, but I have the gun and I'm happy!! He is allready making enuendos about wanting it back, but it was mine in the first place and he stold it from me, broke it and gave me the left overs, shamefull guntraders...Beware

Kurt:
Lock up your female dogs... Ray is on the prowl. I don't know if he like Brno's or Doberman's best, though.

BTW, I had the Ernst Kerner 9.3x62 worked on some to get the claw mounts to stay locked in. I also had the bolt handle re-welded where there were some serious "bubbles" that needing attending too. It should be better than new, and still pretty darn original. Can't wait!

KurtC

I have never seen a 22f that lacks the double squarebridges on the receiver

Have they been removed from this gun? My BRNO rifles all have the bases for scope mount milled in bridges.

/ JOHAN

Johan,

Brno's made prior to 1949 have the original round receivers with the logo on the front ring.

KurtC

Can you post a close up shoot on the receiver ring of that action?

Thanks for the info
/ JOHAN

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Alf,

I have only seen one other full stock 60cm barrel, and that was a conversion to .358 Norma Mag. It was done by Continental Arms, New York.

I'd be happy to answer any questions you have. Either on the forum or by e-mail. stutzenrifles@aol.com

I had a 23.5" barreled Mod 22F manlicher in 1951 and I sold it, didn't realize what I had...I had a 21M rifle with a 20.5" barrel fully factory engraved a few years ago..both in 7x57....

I saw a 9.3x62 in a 20.5" m-22F at the big Walley Bienfield show in Vegas in 1997 or 98..Price tag was about $9000. as I recall. It looked like the real deal to me.

It amazes me what is floating around out there that no one has heard off...but some stuff can be fake...other stuff was made on request of company heads etc.

At one time Winchester or colt would make anything you wanted on special order, most factory back then would do that kind of stuff and they didn't even have a Custom gun dept, they just had a keen since of customer relations.

I'm still suffering me selling a new in the box, a wood box filled with selzer for packing, 1886 Win. with pistol grip and a 30" barrel deluxe, in 45-90..I cut a fat hog on that one, I got $150. from some dummy....but that was a lot of money in 1950..I was making $276.00 per month on the El Paso, Tex. police dept and getting my uniform torn off about every 3 or 4 days, usually by some beatifull young hard bodied lady..

If you believe that I have a little black land farm just North of El Paso on war road 11, that I like to sell you...

Two years ago at the Tulsa show there was a 23.5" full stock double square bridge 7x57 for sale. It was absolutely unfired, 100% original finish and condition, not a blemish anywhere. Also had factory "see through" rings and a 1" European scope of some kind. It was $1850 which I considered a little bit high, I hesitated and walked around a little more, went back, you know the rest (it was gone).

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Two 22-F's for sale (not mine):

www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=8838034

www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=8869981

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This ZG was made in 1950, serial number 44, caliber 270Win, was in Canada many years. Never seen one with a stock or checkering pattern like this but it is supposedly original:











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Atkinson

I have made the business of this month, take it easy
I traded my only Remington 700 made 1968 for a BRNO m-21 in 9,3X62 (re-barreled. The fellow didn't like the rifle and wanted a remington action to build a custom rifle on. I didn't argue with him and made the deal

Cheers
/JOHAN

Been raining all weekend. Not much else to do so I took the 7x64 22f to the range. The old girl still averages 1 MOA with Norma factory 170 gr. Not bad for a 56 yr old rifle. The rumors about full stocks being inaccurate are just that.

Alf

What can you tell me about a couple of 21's I've encountered that have round ZG 47 style bolt handles as opposed to the butter knife style?

Thanks.

GG

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Alf,

This one doesn't make much sense. It is obviously a post-49 receiver with dovetails, but the handle and shroud are odd for a 21 or 721.
Brno

Alf

I'm sorry, I should have mentioned that both of these examples I saw had "55" stamped on receiver and barrel. I have always thought that perhaps they were a transitional model between mod 21 and ZG47 - ie maybe they had no more butter knife handles left and so whacked one of the "new" ZG47 ones on etc. On both of these rifles the bolt handle was the only departure - all other features were pure mod 21.

GG