Rick,

I reckon the Lapua brass is some of the niceest there is to look at, from all accounts it performs well to !!

I agree....I had used only US made brass prior to getting 100 Lapua cases for my 9.3 x 62...

Unlike the Winchester, Remington and Federal brass I was accostomed to, I have reloaded the Lapua time after time and so far my digtal calipers detect NO measurable lengthening of the cases...

Good stuff as far I can determine...

Pygmy my calipers have a flat battery at the moment did it need trimming or was it uniform in length right from the box (I sized my brass last weekend) ??

Paul...... So far I have never trimmed a case...The lot I recieved is very uniform...And the cases that I have fired 5 or 6 times are the same length as the never fired ones...

Thanks Mate !! It would be nice to see Hornady & sierra bring out some 9.3 bullets. I do not mind speer or woodleigh's (Barnes are to deer) but a little more choice would be great.

I wonder how a 9.3 bullet with a flat frontal area would go ??

PC,

Barnes are too dear on your side of the big pond but they're half the price of Woodleighs over here. Maybe we need some type of exchange program

Load development begins next week with the Barnes 286gr X bullets I bought last week.

I called Nosler about their factory seconds program and the gent there told me they may have some 9.3's next week at half the price I paid for firsts. Sounds like just the ticket as the rifle seems to like the partition flavored bullets.

Bullet exchange now theres an idea !! Thing that kills it is the postage. I posted a pack of bullets to another bloke from this forum in the states and it cost me $24.00 for postage, sea mail would have been heaps cheaper but may take 6 months. What is a pack of Barnes 9.3 bullets worth in $US ??. Woodleigh's cost me $50AUS per pack.

PC,

I think retail for the Barnes bullets is about US $35.00 / 50. I imagine the Govt would get involved and want some taxes, permits and compensation if you shipped more than a couple of boxes. $62.00 / 50 for the Woodleighs might begin to look like a bargin

Rick

Maybe it does only take 6 weeks ??

Rick so the cost of a pack of woodleigh's for you is $62US per 50 ??

Your $$ being so good would make it reasonably favourable, the rate at the minute is 1AUS$ is worth .66 US$

Remember Carcano is just shipping across the North Atlantic, shipping from Australia is across two oceans and that stretch of the map that is labeled "Here there be dragons".

Actually, if the Nosler 2nd's shoot as well as the 1st's and only cost $18.00/50 for the 286gr partition I'll probably just use them for practice, US and plains game. Doing the math and using the exchange rate you gave shows that you're paying about the same for Woodleighs as I pay for Barnes or Nosler premiums. Huntington's has Woodleigh's for @ $56.00 plus shipping. Guess moving lead or brass half way around the World is bound to get expensive.

Now a Barnes bullet for Foster's Lager trade...



Rick

[ 06-29-2003, 00:32: Message edited by: Rick R ]

Rick,

last I checked Barnes X bullets were in the realm of $80AUS per pack.

I once priced Barnes X .416 400 gr bullets and they were about $120AUS while woodleighs are $50AUS per pack for the .416's.

I sought of wished Hornady in particular would produce a 9.3 bullet. I like there stuff, I have used themin .44 rem mag & .375. I e-mailed them and Lonnie Hummel said he wopuld pass it on to the appropriate people. If you want a 9.3 bullet from them start e-mailing.

PC,

Sent them the 2nd email again today on the subject. I'd like to see a 250gr SST for deer hunting and maybe a 286gr or 300gr round nose for the bigger stuff.

I sent an email to Speer about putting out a matched set of Grand Slam and African Grand Slam's in .366". The reply I got was to the effect that the 270gr Hotcore is adequate for most everything already. It is an accurate bullet but if the appearance and legend amoung big game shooters is that it's too soft they're not going to shake that image easily.

Guess we'll have to wait for a Hornady Interlock as I don't forsee Sierra putting out a hunting bullet for the 9.3, they're too geared to MatchKings appropriate calibers.

WPM,

I would also like to see a 232 gr offering. At the minute it's Norma bullets only for 232 gr bullets.

Rick everyone states the speer 270 is to soft but for most stuff short of Naty's it probably would be alright as the 9.3 will not push the bullets design to the limits. I reckon you would get a nice big fat mushroom out of that one

Doug, which barrel contour did you order? -Fred

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
I ordered a 9.3 barrel from Lothar Walter last week. Now to deside which action to put it on!

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Johan,

he should have bought back or National Beer VB (Victorian Bitter). I have recently been to the top end of Australia were the majority of our Indegenous bretheren live and by the looks of the road side VB is there favoured drop followed by cask wine

In all seriousness thanks for the tip Johan you blokes in Europe and particularly the staes get much more access to good products than we do in Australia. I suppose we can feel lucky we have woodleigh bullets in our own backyard.

Fred I took the lazy way out & just ordered the artical # 722 barrel. It's already threaded (for a Mauser 98) & deep chambered. http://www.lothar-walther.de/us/

[ 07-01-2003, 02:07: Message edited by: D Humbarger ]

Wonder if the gent who started Woodleigh did it in disgust over a shipping bill?

PC,

I'll try to get a recovered Speer 270gr this deer season, if I can find three or four deer lined up in a row

[ 07-01-2003, 02:03: Message edited by: Rick R ]

Rick,

you will need a few phone books behind those deer mate !!

I have been thinking maybe I do not need woodleigh's for popping roo's the speers would probably work just fine, well I know they would. I reckon they might work out a $15-20 cheaper per 100 I will have to check.

How does the 250 gr Nos Ballistic tip in 9.3 go ??

I have killed a couple of deer and a few wild pigs with the 270 Speer in a 9,3x74R double. It has always done good. I shot one 300lb Boar at 27 yards with the 270 Speer.
My notes read:
Hog running away at angle,hit hog in shoulder, bullet penetrated @ 3inches of gristleplate [due to angle]broke neck. Bullet found in rear of jaw. Hog went right down.
Retained weight 221.4gr. @82%
Max dia. of mushroom .925"
Minimum dia. of mushroom .708"
Length of bullet .655"
Chronoed velocity 2390 fps.
I thought this was great performence considering the bone that was struck. The bullet did not open up a large hole on entering the gristle plate indicating it was holding together.
It has killed quickly on the other pigs and deer I have shot with it.
This is the only 270 Speer I have recovered,but I would not be afraid to use this bullet on ELK.
It is a better bullet for big game than the 286 Norma Alaska bullet.

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Ray A,

Graf brass is made by Hornady.

NE,

thats a great report !!

Do you reckon the speer 9.3 270 gr is a tougher bullet than the Nos Ballistic tip 9.3 ??

Doug, I did the same, only with the 724 barrel, the heavier contour. I'll leave it at 25" to start, see if I am comfortable with that length.

It is going on a VZ24 action that is currently at Jack Belk's having a bolt handle welded on. Regarding the deep chamber, I wasn't aware of that when I ordered from LW, for some reason assumed they were short chambered. Original plan was to ream the chamber and headspace the barrel myself, I have 9.3 gauges. But with a long chamber, and me with no lathe, I'll have to send it out. -Fred

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Fred I took the lazy way out & just ordered the artical # 722 barrel. It's already threaded (for a Mauser 98) & deep chambered. http://www.lothar-walther.de/us/

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PC
I have not shot the Nosler Ballistic in the 9,3 yet, but I may give them a try, I would like to have a "300 yard" load for my Chapuis double and at 9,3x74R velocities it will need a bullet that can expand at that range. The Hawk 285 gr is also a bullet I am thinking about. I have some Swift 250gr but havenot shot them either, I was told they would offer useful expansion down to 1600fps, but do not know for sure.
It does not do any good to hit the animal [at any range, close or far] if the bullet will not perform properly.

Perhaps I get more velocity in my 26" barrel 9.3x62 and I do load to max...but everything I shot with that 270 gr. Speer blew up on contact and some of my fellow 9.3 shooters have experienced the same....This even on light animals like Impala, Bushbuck and Springbuck...

Same with the Hawks unless they are pushed very slow with the very thick jackets...

I have found the Nosler Bal. tips to do pretty well, but have had a few seperations or close to seperations.....

The Nosler partitions and Woodleighs allways work 100 percent and the Swift A frames do as advertised...The North Forks are perfect bullets in all calibers...

This may not be the case in the 2200 FPS catagory...

Gungeek,
I know Hornady has made Graff brass in some calibers, but hornady is not tooled up for 9.3x62 and since Graff buys brass on bulk contract I was assuming Lapua is doing that one for them, unless Norma is doing it...Thats allmost has to be as they are set up to do so.

Ray,

How have the Barnes X bullets fared in your experience? I went with a 12 twist and I think the rifle's going to like them.

Rick

Ray
My 270 Speer load "regulates" good in my rifle at 2390fps. [chronographed] and has performed very good even with shots as close as 27 yards on fairly big pigs. What velocity are you getting in your 26" bbl 9,3x62? A couple of hundred fps can make a big difference. I think the Speer is better than the 286 Norma Alaska after using both. I like the Hawk 285gr.035jkt much better than the other two, on deer and pig sized game anyway. On bigger stuff the 296 Woodleigh soft and the Nosler Partition get the nod.
How do you feel the Nosler Partition and the Woodleigh stack up against each other?

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NE450 No2,

Well, Ray wandered into the conversation, said something that piqued our attention and then probably got on an airplane and flew off somewhere's for a few months.

Rick

[ 07-04-2003, 20:47: Message edited by: Rick R ]

Rick, here's an old post of mine with the results from my use of the 250 gr Barnes X in my 9.3x62.

http://www.serveroptions.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004954

Ed,

I'm eventually going to have to get some 250gr X's and try them, looks like they did everything for you but drag the game outta the woods.

So many bullets, so little powder

Rick

Wow! ya don't wanna wonder off to far around here!!

Rick,
I have shot the Barnes X's in 250 and 286..the 286 wouldn't shoot in my gun but the 250 did well and fairly sizzled at about 2700.. Where in the world did you find a 1x12 twist in a 9.3..All I have been able to find are 1x14's....

N.E, 450 #2,
My 26" barrel got about 2650 with the 270 Speer and based on your experience that figures out...as you are getting good performance at 2300 plus and I'm blowing them up at 2600 plus..Same with Hawks, I can't get them to stay together, even with the thicker jackets because they are not bonded...

PC.,
I use the flat nose solids from GS Customs in my 9.3x62 and they are the very best...We have used them on Buffalo and they work like a charm..The only problem is the guys over here in the states are haveing delivery porblems...

Bridger bullets in the US is makeing a flat nose solid and I got some for testing and they sure do shoot well, maybe the most accurate bullet I have ever shot in several calibers...

Ray,

It's a Douglas barrel, they advised me they could make any twist from 1 in 6" up. I figured that the Barnes X's needed a bit more spin, looks like I'm going to easily get 2,400fps with the 286gr.

Rick

[ 07-11-2003, 15:42: Message edited by: Rick R ]

I look at the wholesalehunter.com website and see that they have both the Nosler bullets showing in stock:
BT "Hunter" 9.3 (.366) 225gr Spitzer at $14.00/50 and the "Partition" 9.3 (.366) 286gr Spitzer at $31.00/50. These prices don't appear too bad to me.
I seem to recall from some article that the 9.3mm bullets are a "Compromise" bullet allowing for a wide range of velocities as many different cartridges use this bullet and it is designed for a variety of velocities. If this is correct it may be like shooting 375 Winchester bullets in the 375 H&H without down loading them.
Anyone else encountered this problem re the 9.3mm and fast loadings??
Regards,