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I have recently picked up a very nice between the wars Sauer & Sohn mauser in this chambering. And looking to learn all I can about the cartridge. So far I have found a nice load using RWS brass and 180gr. Barnes over RL - 15 clocked 2640 fps., and shot right at 1 1/2" at 100yards. I think this pretty good for 80 year old rifle with an old Zeiss. I bought the rifle because it was just a very nice example. I would like to hear your thoughts on the cartridge/load performance. Many Thanks HBH | ||
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I've been using the 185 Gr Rem bullet over RL15 in mine and getting the same groups as you at 100. Mine is open sight only. I recently got a Lyman cocking piece sight and we'll see if that will shrink the groups any. Not the best pic but the only one handy:  The barrelled action is also an 8x60 I put together for a friend. Mine came as an 8x57 but had EXCESS headspace. After removing the setback, I had the receiver re-carburised then rechambered the barrel. At only 6.5 lbs it's a great stalking rifle and I look forward to taking some hogs with it someday soon.  Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8x60mm_S Interesting cartridge to me also. ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ | |||
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Kabluewy, I found that link a couple of weeks back and good info. there. I have been at this awhile and didn't know jack about the cartridge prior to running into the rifle. It has reaffirimed to me something I have been thinking about for sometime. That being we go through phases where we chase the latest/fastest/lightest ect., and then at least for me I am ending up desiring just the best quality I can find and the cartridge isnt always the lone consideration. Nutty thoughts from a rifle nut. Many Thanks HBH | |||
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Would anyone know where I might find an 8x60s reamer? | |||
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It can be loaded to pretty close to the 8 mm Rem mag according to some friends of mine that like it...Nice rifles pictured...To me it seems to be pretty close to a 338-06 IMP..and thats works pretty darn good. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Brno8x60S NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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The 8x60S is one of the world's great unsung cartridges. It is absolutely magnificent, more gun than the .30-06 and almost as much as the .318 or .333. In short, you cannot go wrong. | |||
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Next to the .338-06 and 9.3x62 it has been the most requested build this year for me. Definitely under-rated. Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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Well...I would think you could load a 200 grn Barnes TSX to about 2650 fps and you might have just about the all around rifle for north america. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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That is not right! The 8x60S is fighting in a lower class than the 8 RM, here the 8x68S is in the Magnum class! | |||
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I am using the rimmed version (8X60RS) in an old J.P. Sauer double. I use a set of RCBS 8X60S dies and the #26 shellholder. My load at present consists of the Nosler Partition or Accubond 200-grain bullet and 58 grains of RL22. The MV of this load is 2450 FPS, and it shoots into a less than 3" pattern @ 100 yards, barrels fired alternately, R - L, R - L. Originally, I used 55.7 grains of H205, for a MV of 2620 FPS. But I ran out of H205 years ago, so had to re-work the load using a slow powder to keep pressures down. I use expanded and trimmed RWS 7X65R brass to make cases for it. "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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Prior to WWII, there was a factory loading of the 8X60S in Germany called the "Magnum Bombe" which featured a 187-grain or perhaps a 198-grain bullet at around 2800-2900 FPS. Some considered this load as effective as some of the .300 H&H Magnum loadings of the day. I don't recall whether this load was made by RWS or DWM. "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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2750 with 180 gr. and R-19 The Magnum Bombe       | |||
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The 8x60Magnum was from RWS, the Magnum Bombe from DWM! | |||
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