It's the centennial of the 30-06.

I'm amazed at how many calibers are built off the 30-06 brass. You can re-size 8mm Mauser down to 30-06. You can trim 30-06 to 45 ACP if you want.

Bullets run from about 80 gr. to 220 gr. This cal. will take any game in No. America. -- A stretch for sure on both ends, but it will take the game. Chuck dogs to Bear --

This is fast becoming my "truck gun" -- Weatherby Vanguard, 30-06, Leupold 3 - 9x 40mm VXII scope. Found in a pawn shop for $350.

When I was in AK, back in 1969, in the Army, I asked about the "best all-round caliber." Without hesitation, "30-06".

Happy Birthday Sweetheart! *S*

There's one serious problem with the 30-06 and that's if you have one it's darn hard to justify a lot of other calibers.

From the 270 Winchester to the 338 Win Mag; are barely better than owning a 30-06 and that's a lot of guns!!!!

The 30-06 is a second-rate ripoff of the 8x57mm Mauser. The only thing the brass is good for is to neck up to .35 Whelen. I'm sick and tired of hearing about it. Where were you last year which was the centennial of the 9.3x62mm Mauser, a cartridge worth celebrating and truly the best all-around caliber there ever was.

Yeah, but guns are like women and shoes. You can't wear Navy when what you really need is Black!

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Originally posted by interboat:
The 30-06 is a second-rate ripoff of the 8x57mm Mauser. The only thing the brass is good for is to neck up to .35 Whelen. I'm sick and tired of hearing about it. Where were you last year which was the centennial of the 9.3x62mm Mauser, a cartridge worth celebrating and truly the best all-around caliber there ever was.

OK, hot shot --

Walk into "Bubbas Ammo, Liquor & Gas" out in the woods of rural America and tell him you need a box of ".35 Whelen" --

*LMOA*

You can resize 30-06 brass down to 8x57 but the opposite is not true.

I love the .30-06 too but it inspired by the 8x57 and 7x57. If I were ever in the position of having to chose only one rifle, the -06 would be it.

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I'm amazed at how many calibers are built off the 30-06 brass. You can re-size 8mm Mauser down to 30-06. You can trim 30-06 to 45 ACP if you want.

Well, it is actually a knock-off of the shorter 57mm Mauser case, just as the Springfield was a poorly concealed copy of the 98 Mauser, but your comments are nonetheless very true. There's no shame in making a copy if your copy is an improvement on the original!

I bought my son a Sako .30-06 when he was a teenager. He's now in his 30's and although he could select from any of my two dozen hunting rifles (or buy his own), he likes his '06 so well that he's shot everything from coyotes up through bull elk with it, including antelope, whitetail, muleys, wild hogs, bobcats, and no telling what else. He's taken deer at over 400 yards with a 150 grain Ballistic Tip, and elk with a 180 Partition. Next June he'll take it to Africa for a variety of plains game.

There's truly nothing like a .30-06 for one-gun hunting versatility and effectiveness.

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Originally posted by z1r:
You can resize 30-06 brass down to 8x57 but the opposite is not true.

I love the .30-06 too but it inspired by the 8x57 and 7x57. If I were ever in the position of having to chose only one rifle, the -06 would be it.

OK, yeah -- You're right. I have both calibers and don't resize either. I knew one resized for the other.

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z1r: If I were ever in the position of having to chose only one rifle, the -06 would be it.

Ditto. My handle says it all.

100 years old and still the number one most useful and top selling round in the US and, I hear, many African countries as well. Surely everyone is not wrong.
Despite my handle, it is still my favorite cartridge as it does what is asked of it, and does it well.

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Originally posted by fla3006:

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z1r: If I were ever in the position of having to chose only one rifle, the -06 would be it.

Ditto. My handle says it all.

That's why my must complete project for this year is my .30-06. Just need to finish the stock and blue.

Back in the day, I think it was Jeff Cooper who said something like " Ain't nothing you can't fix with a couple hundred dollars and a thirty ought six." Dollars aren't quite the same today, but the "ought six" sure is.

My 30-06 I've had for about 30 years and its on its third barrel. That 700 action is something else. I just will not replace it. Its one of the family.

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There's one serious problem with the 30-06 and that's if you have one it's darn hard to justify a lot of other calibers.

Too true and enough said.

I don't currently own a 30-06, but my two of my favorite calibers are based off of it. The 270 and 338-06.

It's pretty hard to beet the 30/06 and I miss mine...............I still have dies and a lot of ammo for it so I see another in my future !!

Prior to let me say that , yes, I know the 30-06 is an epic cartridge.having said that Ipose this question;

"Had our military adopted the 8mmX57mm in 1903 and used it until and including the Korean police action, and the 30-06 had came along later as did the .280 would the 06 be getting all this flowery posting as is happening on this thread"? roger

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"Had our military adopted the 8mmX57mm in 1903 and used it until and including the Korean police action, and the 30-06 had came along later as did the .280 would the 06 be getting all this flowery posting as is happening on this thread"? Eekerroger

Sir, you're asking for conjecture. Yes, I just happen to have some!

Had the US Military spent the wars using the 8 X 57 then that would be the standard and such cartridges as the 25-06, 270, 280, 35 W, would not exist but then the magnums would have sufficient increase in power to make them much more attractive.

Let me tell you about another cartridge that's exactly like the 30-06 but only 3/8" longer. Same .472 head size, same body taper, same 17 1/2 deg shoulder but .37" longer. It's the 30 nonexistant. It never made it to the military and never made it to market as it was never designed and never built as there was no reason for it!

The 30-06 would be that cartridge if the US military adopted the 8 X 57 in 1903!

The 3006 is the most boring caliber ever invented. Shoot something with it and it just dies.


TerryR

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Originally posted by bartsche:
Prior to let me say that , yes, I know the 30-06 is an epic cartridge.having said that Ipose this question;

"Had our military adopted the 8mmX57mm in 1903 and used it until and including the Korean police action, and the 30-06 had came along later as did the .280 would the 06 be getting all this flowery posting as is happening on this thread"? roger

No, of course not, because it would be just another good cartridge, not a shooting icon.

That said, the 8x57, excellent cartridge though it is, is not quite as versatile as the .30-06. Even loaded to comparable pressures, it lacks the velocity (and sectional density) with lighter bullets to be as good for long ranges on light game like pronghorn. On the heavier end it virtually matches the '06 in energy, but with bullets of equal sectional density it is somewhat slower and provides a less forgiving trajectory. As a result of these characteristics, I doubt that the 8x57, were places swapped with the .30-06 as you suggest, be receiving the quite the same kudos. (P.S., I'm a long-time fan of the 8x57, that being the cartridge I killed my first der with.)

The story I got is that God created the heavens and earth in six days. On the seventh day God rested. While he was "resting" he decided to do a little hunting and so created the optimal caliber.

He named it "aught six" after the Six Days of Creation. And He chose 30 cal. because that's the one with all the bullet selection.



That's the story I get --

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Originally posted by 45/70 Govt.:
The story I got is that God created the heavens and earth in six days. On the seventh day God rested. While he was "resting" he decided to do a little hunting and so created the optimal caliber.

He named it "aught six" after the Six Days of Creation. And He chose 30 cal. because that's the one with all the bullet selection.



That's the story I get --

As the helmeted man behind the bushes in Laugh In said" Very interesting"

I think VD has it about right.

Differences in energy or trajectry with any weight bullet are small and in the real world will have little meaning if any. If the person is carrying an 06 or an 8x57 and knows how to use it, both hammers will drive the nail just fine.

IMHO The 8x57 is amoung MANY superior designed cartridges coming out of Europe and Britain that were never widely received in the US. The exceptions were at one time the .300 and .375 H&H. Only after the importation of millions of foriegn military rifles has the American gunner even realized the usefullness of off shore contributions to or powder burning past time.

Shall we stubornly continue our ostrich vision with emotional intercourse. roger

A .30'06 in a Model 70 Pre'64 Featherwieght it just doesn't get any better then that!

http://www.loadammo.com/Topics/March02.htm

Don't forget those 22 caliber Accelerators. They make the old '06 even more versatile.

My first rifle was a 30-06 I got at the age of 15, now I am 41 and I still have that same rifle and it still my go to gun, she went to Africa with me as my back up to my 35 whelen, it just felt wrong leaving her at home..

Craven
Long live the 30-06

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Originally posted by interboat:
The 30-06 is a second-rate ripoff of the 8x57mm Mauser. The only thing the brass is good for is to neck up to .35 Whelen. I'm sick and tired of hearing about it. Where were you last year which was the centennial of the 9.3x62mm Mauser, a cartridge worth celebrating and truly the best all-around caliber there ever was.

Are you looking to get burned at the stake, or what?

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Where were you last year which was the centennial of the 9.3x62mm Mauser, a cartridge worth celebrating and truly the best all-around caliber there ever was.

Are you looking to get burned at the stake, or what?

If we're gonna do steak, make mine a rib-eye, medium rare, eh? *LMAO*

I like the 8 X 57 Mauser, have two of them and a case of mil-surp ammo from Ecuador.

The 9.3 X 62 is one I don't have any experience with, but it has all the features I look for in a caliber -- big bullet and a big case behind it.

I looked for a 45/110 or 120, even a 45/90, and everyone told me I was getting carried away.

There's a .458 Lott out there with my name on it. But I'd settle for .458 Win. Mag. .460 Weatherby -- Or a 600 Overkill.

I have a small cannon in the barn.

I must like the damned things...I just counted 7 of 'em in the gun room. Maybe they're making babies when I'm not lookin'!

Yeah, go ahead and lynch the guy who hates .30-06, then I can accept that the 06 is the "only" cartridge for me. Well, not quite, but it is my top end limit due to arthritis, so pity us poor folks who can no longer stand any more recoil than that of the diminutive .30-06 !!!! Even more the pity when the .30-06 takes any and all African plains game that some people here seem to believe is invulnerable to anything less than .338 Win Magnum or the venerable 9.3x62mm. .30-06 FOREVER !!

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Originally posted by sierra2:
.30-06 FOREVER !!

It likely will be!!!

Guns come and go sometimes and sometimes I find myself without a certain caliber. The 30-06 is the only caliber that I can not be without for long.

I can do without a 270 or even a 300, but the 30-06 leaves a hole.

I guess I feel like it's the only gun I can pick up and not be undergunned or overgunned. It shoots flat enough. It will shoot a big enough bullet. It won't blow something apart. Just a caliber you can trust to get the job done.

Granted, I'm not talking about hunting prairie dogs, squirrel, Grizzlies or Cape Buffalo. Other than that the 30-06 will get the job done.

Wow i just realized that of all the different calibers i have .the 30/06 is the only one i have in 5 different rifles . I wonder why that is ?