This rifle makes no sense check out the sights,
and the price ouch!
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=42212816

That is the first time I have ever heard of, let alone seen a 35 Whelen across the course rifle.

Long range shooting with a 35 Whelen?

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Long range shooting with a 35 Whelen?

Works for me HUNTING, but WHY in the 'ell would you build a rifle like this when bullet manufacturers don't even make match bullets in .358?!?!?

Whoever bought that rifle from USRAC is a true idiot.

First of all, a 35 caliber ANYTHING is not legal in NRA Match Rifles. 35 caliber is the limit for NRA Any Rifle, but why bother when there have been MUCH better alternatives for quite some time now.

Also, the sights and stock have LONG since stopped being state of the art.

That rifle is pretty much worthless.

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Originally posted by HP Shooter:
Whoever bought that rifle from USRAC is a true idiot.

Perhaps he just has different tatstes than you and money to undulge his whims?

First of all, a 35 caliber ANYTHING is not legal in NRA Match Rifles. 35 caliber is the limit for NRA Any Rifle, but why bother when there have been MUCH better alternatives for quite some time now.

Also, the sights and stock have LONG since stopped being state of the art. [/QUOTE]

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That rifle is pretty much worthless.

If it shoots it ain't worthless. If it doesn't fit a particular void in your needs then it simply isn't for you. But, worthless? I think not.

I've seen similar rifles used in informal cast bullet rifle silhouette matches. Those owners didn't think their rifles worthless, on the contrary, they got immense pleasure shooting them. The fact that it wasn't a sanctioned match didn't seem to dimminish their enjoyment factor one bit.

To each their own.

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Originally posted by woodsracer:
bullet manufacturers don't even make match bullets in .358?!?!?

Oh...yes they do "Lost River Ballistic Techonlogies" 225gr with a .530BC It's called a J36 Match hunting bullet.

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Originally posted by T/C Nut:

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Originally posted by woodsracer:
bullet manufacturers don't even make match bullets in .358?!?!?

Oh...yes they do "Lost River Ballistic Techonlogies" 225gr with a .530BC It's called a J36 Match hunting bullet.

I forgot about that one. But I 'betcha the rifle was built, before the bullet was available.

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Originally posted by z1r:

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Originally posted by HP Shooter:
Whoever bought that rifle from USRAC is a true idiot.

Perhaps he just has different tatstes than you and money to undulge his whims?

First of all, a 35 caliber ANYTHING is not legal in NRA Match Rifles. 35 caliber is the limit for NRA Any Rifle, but why bother when there have been MUCH better alternatives for quite some time now.

Also, the sights and stock have LONG since stopped being state of the art.

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That rifle is pretty much worthless.

If it shoots it ain't worthless. If it doesn't fit a particular void in your needs then it simply isn't for you. But, worthless? I think not.

I've seen similar rifles used in informal cast bullet rifle silhouette matches. Those owners didn't think their rifles worthless, on the contrary, they got immense pleasure shooting them. The fact that it wasn't a sanctioned match didn't seem to dimminish their enjoyment factor one bit.

To each their own.[/QUOTE]
Whatever you say, chief.

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Originally posted by woodsracer:
I forgot about that one. But I 'betcha the rifle was built, before the bullet was available.

You got me there...didn't think about that..LOL

Thanks 323, nice biathlon rig.

I used to do a lot of HP shooting, some of what was on a 200 yard reduced course. I somtines shot cast lead (out of an '06 match rifle), and I remember thinking "what would be the ultimate cast lead caliber for the reduced course on a windy day?" The 35 Whelan would be it. Full power, powder filling loads, and extra weight compared to the '06. I thought that someday I would re-barrel my 1917 match rifle in 35 for fun.

Don't poke fun till you see the 600 yd. Target!!! The .35 Whelen has a reputation for being quite accurate. Mine has lived up to that reputation in spayds!!!

It's interesting just because it's so odd but not $4700 interesting. If it was the one and only pre-64 35 Whelen that might be different.

Kind of like Yugo making just one car with a Offenhauser; still a crappy Yugo.

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Originally posted by mike_elmer:
Don't poke fun till you see the 600 yd. Target!!! The .35 Whelen has a reputation for being quite accurate. Mine has lived up to that reputation in spayds!!!

Man, Mike. SPAY is bad word on a forum of men. You meant SPADES, huh?

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Originally posted by mike_elmer:
Don't poke fun till you see the 600 yd. Target!!! The .35 Whelen has a reputation for being quite accurate. Mine has lived up to that reputation in spayds!!!

Mike a 35 Whelen zeroed a 200 yards has a 72 inch drop at 500 and is going down like a rock. I'm not sure you couldn't even find a scope with enough elevation to show the bulls eye at 600 yards and compensate for the drop.

I am no expert on long range shooting by any means but any of the 35 calibers can be very accurate. They can be loaded with lighter weight 35 cal pistol bullets and pushed at very high velocities and shoot very flat. I have used pistol bullets in 358 win mag and 350 rem mag with great results. Never got into long range shooting with either. But would think you could reduce the bullet drop significantly at longer ranges due to the lighter weight and higher velocity.

I didn't know there was a 358 Win Mag. Did I miss something? Norma maybe?

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Originally posted by 323:
This rifle makes no sense check out the sights,
and the price ouch!
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=42212816

323,

I recall reading (about 10-12 years ago) about a series of M70 course rifles built in some larger calibers. The largest was a .458 Win Mag. Wonder if this is the fellow who had the series built. Guess its for someone who has unlimited funds. Does not make any sense for target shooting but then again there is a lot of that going around these days.

Corbin

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Originally posted by mike7mm08:
I am no expert on long range shooting by any means but any of the 35 calibers can be very accurate. They can be loaded with lighter weight 35 cal pistol bullets and pushed at very high velocities and shoot very flat. I have used pistol bullets in 358 win mag and 350 rem mag with great results. Never got into long range shooting with either. But would think you could reduce the bullet drop significantly at longer ranges due to the lighter weight and higher velocity.

The recoil of a 35 Whelen load that can keep up with a 243 Winchester or 6 mmXC pushing a 115 gr VLD bullet at 3000 fps is going to be unbearable after ten shots, let alone the twenty of a typical 1000 yard prone match.

The trend in Highpower and NRA Long Range has been steadily towards smaller, longer bullets of VERY high BCs at 2800 to 3100 fps.

David Tubb won the 2004 NRA Long Range Championship with an astonishing 1450-bunch of Xs (a perfect score) using a 6 mmXC and a 115 gr DTAC (Sierra) 115 grain HPBTM.

I think this is one of those one-of-a-kind factory rifles that someone ordered in an odd-ball configuration with the express intent of owning the only one that will ever be built.

If he gets $4700 for it as a collector's piece he's achieved his goal.

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The recoil of a 35 Whelen load that can keep up with a 243 Winchester or 6 mmXC pushing a 115 gr VLD bullet at 3000 fps is going to be unbearable after ten shots, let alone the twenty of a typical 1000 yard prone match.

Never looked at it that way. I always used pistol bullets more on the mild side to reduce recoil. See I told you I knew nothing about long range shooting.

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Originally posted by 323:
This rifle makes no sense check out the sights,
and the price ouch!
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=42212816

Is David Tubb taking up bear hunting?

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Originally posted by .366torque:

quote:

Originally posted by 323:
This rifle makes no sense check out the sights,
and the price ouch!
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=42212816

Is David Tubb taking up bear hunting?