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Whelen and 270gr Northforks?
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Has anyone tried these 270grain bullets in their M700?
 
Posts: 392 | Location: Western Massachusetts | Registered: 05 March 2005Reply With Quote
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I have loaded 275 grain RN Hornadys and 300 grain Barnes, but never the 270 North Forks. I expect they will do everything you need and then some. For the heavier bullets in the Whelen, I like IMR 4350, H4350 and Reloader 19.


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Posts: 1224 | Location: Lorraine, NY New York's little piece of frozen tundra | Registered: 05 July 2003Reply With Quote
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Westernmassman ----- I don't shoot the Whelan or the M700. I have had great success with the .358 North Fork with my two STA's, both Model 70 Winchesters. My son and I have shot them on Elk for some years now, and I used them for plains game in the Selous. A very tough, accurate premium bullet. wave Good shooting.


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Phurley: I'm just bugged about the 225 bearclaws performance on a moose last saturday. Killing shot but incomplete penetration. Looking for a tougher bullet 225-250 grains when I saw the 270gr Northforks. Probably not needed in the Whelen so I will try some 250 northforks.
Raining like heck today, the wife's off shopping, a good day to get my .358 win loads ready for VT deer season! Thanks
 
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Westernmassman ----- I have shot the 270 grain North Fork since I found out about it and for larger big game will continue to use it. I have always been impressed with it's perfect mushrooms recovered from my test box, but until I actually recovered some from animals I really didn't understand exactly what they were capable of. I have since recovered three of them, one from Elk and one from a Kongoni (Hartebeest). The bullet recovered from the Elk was quite impressive in that it penetrated a big Bull through both shoulders then penetrated a bedded down Cow's scull and recovered from the cranium on the offside some 25 yards beyond the Bull. My son was the shooter and it was legal in Colorado with tags for both animals. He did not mean to accomplish this, it just happened, the Cow was not in his line of sight. That bullet was from one of my STA's that was loaded to 2950 fps. The Kongoni bullet was from one of my STA's loaded to 2850 fps and it penetrated the shoulder and neck and lodged in the offside hide. The Kongoni is an animal roughly the size of a Caribou, but in my opinion (after witnessing this) much tougher. Both those bullets were above 90% in retained weight. The other recovered North Fork I have was from a 370 grain North Fork loaded to 2450 fps from a .416 Rem and dug out of the neck bone of a large Cape Buffalo. That bullet traversed from the last rib all the way through the body and imbedded in the juncture of the first rib on the neck bone. It' retained weight is exactly 99.1%, and I personally made the shot, and witnessed the removal of the bullet (to the amazement of the PH). I then sent the bullet to North Fork for inspection and weighing. Mike was also kind enough to send the bullets back to me for keep sakes. ----- I told you this story just to give you an idea why I have great respect for the North Fork bullet. wave Good luck and good shooting.


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Below is an extract from a reply by Mr.NF himself,

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...The same thing goes for the 358-270. There are very few cartridges that can utilize that bullet. The ones that can, have a powder capacity that could be used on light armored vehicles...

Here is the posting it was from:
https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/...=248109935#248109935
 
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After reading the post it seems that considering I will be using a Whelen I better stick with the 250's, unless I misinterpreted the post. Doesn't seem like a bad choice anyway!
 
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Westernmassman ----- If I were in your shoes I would probably use the 250 grain with the Whelan, which is in my opinion one of the best rounds ever thought up. I also shoot a lot of the 250 North Fork with my STA's. With the STA speed and if I am going to be around dangerous game I will be using the 270 grainers. This fall in Colorado for Elk I will be using the 250 grainers, in fact just ordered 4 boxs from Mike. I am luck in that my barrels on both my rifles like both weight bullets enough to give pin point accuracy, as well as the 225 grainers. wave Good shooting.


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Bigbullet where did you get those 275 RN Hornadys , as i haven't seen them anywhere.
 
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This may not need to be said, but maybe you were right in just looking for a tougher bullet. If I were shooting 225's at moose, I'd give the 225 NF a try. It'll give you more speed that the 250, and assuming the bullet will hold up better then the BC you'll get the penetration you were looking for.
Depending on how close you are, that extra 100fps might translate into a much easier trajectory. Both of them should give you 2k ft lb close to 300yd.


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Bigbullet where did you get those 275 RN Hornadys , as i haven't seen them anywhere.

You probably won't. thumbdown Hornady discontinued them prior to 1967 and have no plans to make any more. CRYBABY I have 35 of those bullets that I found at a gun show. The first edition of Hornady's loading manual stated that the bullets were discontinued, but that they provided the data for those that still had some. It was not mentioned even in passing in the second edition.
I contacted Hornady to see if they'd ever make another run. The answer was, "Not likely."
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