I like the heavy for caliber bullets and I think the 300 H&H could easily swallow particularly the 220 gr Nosler Partition. Is it possible to get let’s say 2700 fps with 25.5" tube?

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Originally posted by CZ:
I like the heavy for caliber bullets and I think the 300 H&H could easily swallow particularly the 220 gr Nosler Partition. Is it possible to get let’s say 2700 fps with 25.5" tube?

I have some hand loads put together about 9 years ago that I used for thick cover hunting. I believe they were Speer. Biggest issue is magazine capacities in some rifles. Not close to my reloading manuals but it might be tough to get 2700. I'm sure others here have quick access to that data.

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Originally posted by CZ:
I like the heavy for caliber bullets and I think the 300 H&H could easily swallow particularly the 220 gr Nosler Partition. Is it possible to get let’s say 2700 fps with 25.5" tube?

I USE THE 220 NOSLER IN MY 300 h&h MOD 70 PRE-WAR for Elk and Africa. Not close to my chrono data, but an old Hornady book shows its doable at 2700

300 H&H 220 grain Loads

220gr Nosler Partition
65grs of IMR-4831sc
OAL = 3.6"
Velocity = 2700fps


220gr Nosler Partition
68grs of H-4831sc
OAL = 3.6"
Velocity = 2700fps

Standard disclaimer applies - reduce these loads and work back up for a SAFE LOAD in YOUR rifle.

Full loads of IMR 7828 and 220-grain Nosler Partition or Hornady RN got me 2700 fps in a 721 model Remington. I do NOT push envelopes and load for accuracy. [FWIW, 67 to 68 grains for 7828 and H4831SC, 65 grains with IMR 4831.]

I have a 300 H & H pre 64 Win Model 70. Shoots 180 partitions well under an inch. 1/2" cut from stock (to fix small chip) Pacy pad installed is the only thing non original. Would like to sell, PM if someone wants a "real" 300 H & H shooter. Ammo, dies, new brass to go along. Will post it again on the Classified in a few days. Thanks and sorry if this is a highjack of sorts.

Larry Sellers
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Its no trick to get 2700 plus out of a pre 64 mod. 70, but it has a 26 inch barrel unless you cut it off!! should be able to get the same with a 25.5 inch barrel...

After 40 years loading the 300 H&H and hunting with it, I can offer a suggestion, use the 200 gr. Nosler, it will out penetrate any 220 gr. bullet, even a 220 gr. Nosler, the 180 Nosler comes close to the 200 and it to will out penetrate the 220 gr. bullets...I can only guess it is because the 220 Nosler expands on contact like all Noslers and the larger cross section slows it down quicker..I have used all three on some pretty big stuff and in every case that was my observation, right or wrong!

As a result of that the 200 gr. Nosler at 3000 FPS plus has been my only load for a long time now..It works great on small whitetail or the massive Eland of Africa..thats hard to beat with any bullet.

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Originally posted by Atkinson:
After 40 years loading the 300 H&H and hunting with it, I can offer a suggestion, use the 200 gr. Nosler, it will out penetrate any 220 gr. bullet, even a 220 gr. Nosler, the 180 Nosler comes close to the 200 and it to will out penetrate the 220 gr. bullets...I can only guess it is because the 220 Nosler expands on contact like all Noslers and the larger cross section slows it down quicker..I have used all three on some pretty big stuff and in every case that was my observation, right or wrong!

As a result of that the 200 gr. Nosler at 3000 FPS plus has been my only load for a long time now..It works great on small whitetail or the massive Eland of Africa..thats hard to beat with any bullet.

Atkinson, thank you for sharing your experiences. I too, have to admit that I believe more in the killing power of Nosler Partition than of Swift A Frame when PG is hunted. The Swift bullets may be too hard zipping through the animal with pencil sized holes on exit. I prefer when energy is transferred and internal damage is deadly. This is more likely to expect with Nosler's.

I agree CZ, I have recovered quite a few Swift A frames, and they all look alike with perfect expansion and a hump behind the perfect mushroom. I have also noticed that they are very smooth and round like a marble, and I think that is a problem whereas the Nosler or Woodleigh have lenthy wings that are jagged and cut a swath more of a buzz saw effect, sometimes the Nosler will blow the front end off and those hot shards do damage to blood vessels and whatever, and normally quicker kills are the result, some say they dont' do much damage but they are full of baloony, they do a hell of a lot of damage, any bullet that comes apart inside and animal is destructive as hell although too much can be counter productive to penetration, but not with a Nosler as the base will make an exit 95 plus % of the time leaving soup in the rib cage...I believe in Nosler, Woodleighs, GS Customs and North forks..I also like the Sirocco and Accubonds for PG and deer and antelope..but there are lots of good bullets out there today and failures are rare as hensteeth today, not so in past years..Today the bullet thing is mostly fun and game we play and profess on, self included. But having favorites is a good thing. I actually prefer the 200 gr. Nosler to any other bullet in the 300 H&H, all 300s and the 30-06.

I also think the 200 grain Nosler Partition is "the bullet" for the 300H&H. It has a high sectional density and ballistic coefficient, which allow it to shoot flatter and carry more energy than either the 180gr or 220gr bullet. I have used it on everything from whitetail deer (small) to eland (big)......shot a big eland bull going away (follow up shot) and the bullet exited under the chin....that's ~5ft of penetration. Also used it to take a Oryx at 380 yards and was still aiming at hair.