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I need some answers from all you experts out there. A friend of mine is planning to hunt Whitetail Deer with a Savage 99 in 284 Win using a 140 grain Partition Bullet. He has been told by some of his friends that this bullet will not open up on Whitetail at 100 yards. Is this True? | ||
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No it isn't true. Last season, I really came to appreciate what the Nosler partition is designed to do. I shot two deer that represented a couple of extremes offering two totally different tests for the same bullet. The first deer, a whitetail, was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I went hunting whitetails that night intent on filling the freezer, so a doe was the intended target. I found the unlucky doe and began the stock by crawling down the meager irrigation ditch situated in the stubble these doe were feeding on. About midway through the stock this little guy decided to reposition himself and I caught his horns moving in another irrigation ditch that intersected mine at 90 degrees. I changed my focus always up for a challenge and started focusing on him. Between us was the forlorn remnants of a round straw bale. I worked into position keeping out of site from the does and when I had that bale between me and the bucks position crawled to it hoping to shoot over the bale down into the buck I couldn’t see the buck even though I was no farther than 40yds from him but knew exactly where he was. The light was going fast so I decided to go for it and stepped out from behind the bail rifle ready. I got inside 10 yards from him before he busted out and shot him at about 20. That 150gr partition launched from my 280 busted through his shoulder and exited the front of his neck. So the bullet works good up close.  The next day I shot this Mule Deer (another last day better do something about the tag buck) at 334yds. He was facing me and I took out the top of his heart and the bullet exited just in front of his hip. This bullet expanded doing considerable damage, and is accurate enough to work at long distance as well.  I shot an Elk that season with the same bullet also. Who could ask for anything more? Chuck | |||
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Your friend's friends are as full of crap as a Thanksgiving turkey, pure and simple....... AD | ||
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The partition will expand and I will put my neck out and say every time or at least 99.9%. The ones who cry that is won't are basing their statement on a small exit hole. That generally means that the bullet expanded back to the partition and the front portion was lost with the smaller rear shank exiting. Typical of a close range impact. Use it. It will expand. The one that scares me is the Barnes X. Maybe the new one with the polymer insert will make me feel better????? | |||
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Chuck.... Great story, great pictures... excellent pair of Bucks!..... Gotta love Alberta...... cheers seafire  | |||
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I've used the 7mm/160gr @ 3200fps for pronghorn (also my elk load) & got good expansion @ 120yds, so the 140gr will be fine. The great thing about the NP is it always expands, if driven too fast the nose may "wipe off" but the shank will continue, usually exiting w/ a small hole. I've seen good expansion down to 2200fps impact vel. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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 This is simply bullcrap. | |||
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I had posted a picture early in the season of a 210gr .338 partition that went through a large doe at around 30-40 yards away and stoped short in the ground of soft mud. (I was shooting from a tree stand) The nose had completely opened up to a big flat point. If a doe will open a 338 partition than it will on all lesser sizes. --------------------------------- It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it | |||
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Allen: Just what do you stuff your turkey with ?  Paul K Take Trophies - Leave Brass | |||
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I have been working up some loads 140,150gr partitons in my 7mmRM for Red deer,i have been testing the loads on feral goats,shots have been from 15-250 yards,150gr partition leaves a 2 inch exit on a 40lbs goat,you will have no problems with partitions on a Whitetail at 100yards. "Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." Sir Winston Churchill | |||
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partition's alwas open,at 450 yards 130g 270win completely opened on an antelope found it under the skin on the far side after going through heart lungs | |||
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I read this and reserved comments until I though it through. This isn't even a logical agruement. The way a NP is designed it is pretty hard not to open. Second the slower the bullet is moving the less expansion your going to see, and at faster speeds the bullet will open up more. Which translates into less expansion at distance and more close up. All the game I have taken in the last five years has been with NP's, three years and five animals were at close ranges, they have yet not to perform for me. If I had a complaint it would be they have too much expansion, and cause more meat damage than I care for. Somebody is dialed into too many urban legends and gunstore talk I think. NP's are great game bullets, I am not going to get into African rounds as I have no experience there but for every critter thats crawls, walks, bounces or slithers in North America, Nosler has a suitable partion, and only dollars and premium bullets are going to improve on that performance | |||
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NPs are great for African game as well. I would hesitate to use the 300gr/.375 on DG but there are several other choices there. LIFE IS NOT A SPECTATOR'S SPORT! | |||
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Hay Chuck, You ever write for a gun rag? When I read your comment I thought I was reading and Article in one. | |||
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I shot an Elk that season with the same bullet also. Who could ask for anything more? Chuck[/QUOTE] I feel a song coming on.  Copula ergo sum | |||
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Gentlemen, I can't write and am even worse with song!  Chuck | |||
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I use 140gr Partitions in my 7MAG pushed at a modest 3150fps. I shot a 155# buck last week at 50yds with this load. Not only did it open up, but it blew thru both shoulders. Partitions Rule!!! Isaiah 41:10 | |||
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Geeeeeezzzzzz, where do these arm chair experts get their info???????? | |||
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I cannot recall the number of times I have heard this bullshit! What (invariably!!) happens is that the front section of Nosler Partition bullets practically blows up after getting into the vitals, and the rear part continues to penerate, ususally exiting and leaving a small exit wound. The geniuses look at that little exit hole and say "it just penciled through, withoput opening up!" when nothing could be further from the truth! The Nosler Partition nose is, in fact, a little on the "soft" side, made to open at extreme ranges, so it CAN'T fail to expand at short ranges! It is the rear portion that goes on afterward. I have been using Partition bullets since 1964, and during that time have only found the remains of two of them inside an animal. One was in a big New Mexico mulie buck shot at 35 yards, and the other was a 300-pound black bear shot at 200 yards. Both bullets were still inside because they had broken through several large bones and were stopped by the hide on the far side after quartering through the animal. In both cases, the front core was gone but the jacket petals were folded back, still intact. The rear section was undamaged except for rifling grooves. In every case I am aware of in which the Partition bullet has been accused of failing to expand, it had gone completely through the animal, and was unavailable for examination by the folks who decided that it had failed to expand!! So I say, "what makes you think so??" "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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Nice bucks! Here's a New Mexico buck!  "Bitte, trinks du nicht das Wasser. Dahin haben die Kuhen gesheissen." | |||
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