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NECKING UP BRASS TO 35WHEELEN
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Originally I thought most people looking to make 35Wheelen brass used 30-06. I have been reading a lot and many alos use 270 and 280 brass.

Which is best and why? What do you use?
 
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I have used both 3006 and 270 and think both work fine. Started using 270 because I had more of it laying around. I dont know that one is better than the other..
 
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I have an expander die that I use for both my .35 whelen and ,357 Herrett.

After making a few rounds of the .357 Heretts the .35 whelens are a walk in the park.


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Whelen brass is easy to get it is usually in stock at just about any net retailer. I really don't see a need to neck up any smaller caliber cartridge unless you have a surplus of the stuff. I like properly headstamped brass when I can get it.
 
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The reason people start with .270 is that sometimes .30-06 brass shortens as you neck it up, and the .270 comes out a bit longer.

I fireform a lot of brass up, as I have an 8mm gibbs and a .429 express. The brass forms easier and more uniformly by fireforming than by necking up with a die. I start with .30-06 as I can usually get an adequate supply of it free at the range.

I anneal the neck and shoulder, and then load with a load of about 6 to 8 grains of red dot pistol powder, followed by filling the case with cream of wheat. Put a wad of paper or some grease in the mouth of the case to hold the mess in, fire it to iron the cases out, and you have perfect, uniform cases. The nice thing is that they stretch slightly, so the length comes out good.

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It might be cheaper to reform '06 or .270 brass but the safety aspect of having incorrectly headstamped brass is very important too . It might be ok if you dont own an '06 or .270 but if you do - buy the properly headstamped brass and avoid a future unhappy event in your life.


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I agree with ssdave, 30-06 brass may come out shorter when you neck it up to .35, and the 270 eliminates this problem.

As to chambering a 35 Whelen in a 270 or 30-06, it ain't gonna happen, unless you beat the bolt closed and push the bullet all the way back in the cartridge case. Both throats are to narrow to allow normal chambering of a Whelen in either, I tried it before typing this note. I also believe anyone who has any experience shooting, or handloading, knows and understands when a bolt dosen't close "normally" investigations are in order.

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Originally posted by taylorce1:
Whelen brass is easy to get it is usually in stock at just about any net retailer. I really don't see a need to neck up any smaller caliber cartridge unless you have a surplus of the stuff. I like properly headstamped brass when I can get it.


Where to get it? I looked at a few places. Even Midway does not offer it on their chart of brass choices.
 
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Luckily I have plenty of 30-06 (can one ever have enough 30-06???) brass and a decent amount of 270WIN.

So no real deal reason to use one over the other?

I found a 3 piece Redding die set (used) for $100 inc. shipping. wave
 
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HUMMM, Midway used to handle it, but Graf & Sons has it in stock, any way I have more than I'll ever use up in my life time.


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As to chambering a 35 Whelen in a 270 or 30-06, it ain't gonna happen,



So - what about chambering a 30-06 or 270 in the Whelen ?

Using mis-headstmped brass when the correct brass is available is just plain DUMB imo

( sorry - had to say that )


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why not just neck down 9,3x62 brass .008" and be done with it? Graf has a lot of the PRVI stuff.

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So - what about chambering a 30-06 or 270 in the Whelen ?

Using mis-headstmped brass when the correct brass is available is just plain DUMB imo

( sorry - had to say that )



If you can't tell the difference between .358, .308 and .277 you shouldn't be shooting it anyway.
 
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Buy the new 35 Whelen brass. It is very common.
 
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If you can't tell the difference between .358, .308 and .277 you shouldn't be shooting it anyway.


Thank you thndrchiken: It goes to show all of us wildcatters, must be DUMB ASSES, well I haven't blown myself up yet. As to shooting 30-06 or 270, in the Whelen, the 270 may not chamber, because the case is too long, depending on the throat that has been cut. The results would be not hitting anything as the bullet bounces down the barrel, but that is all that is going to come of it, no blow up there.

Jerry

ps what about all the wildcats, that don't have brass available should we scrap all of those??


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Jerry - my point was not that using '06 or 270 brass was a sign of mental deficiencies , just that using correctly headstamped brass was a good way of overcoming unfortunate mix-ups in you ammo.

I use surplus '06 brass in my 8mm-06 , and have formed much 25-06 brass from its bigger brothers - but it is still much safer to use correctly designated brass to minimize the risk factor .

Nothing more , nothing less - and I load a selection of other wildcats as well so its a situation I am quite familiar with .

You have a great weekend in Az


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