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If you had a once in a lifetime Shiras moose and had a .270 what ammo would you use? I am looking at the 140 Accubond. The .270 is a weatherby ultra light, and its a tack driver with 140. or get a 2nd job and buy a different rifle/caliber with what bullet? | ||
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160 NP But I used my 35 Whelen with 280 SAF a few months ago for my Colorado once-in-a-lifetime bull Shiras Moose. Got a dandy. Good luck! | |||
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150gr or heavyer. | |||
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I have shot hundreds of AFRICAN plains game with various 270 rifles. Bullets used were 130 Barnes X, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw 140, and Jensen J2 150 grains. Animals included eland, zebra and sable. My honest answer is that there was absolutely no difference in any of the above bullets performance. Every animal hit right died quickly. | |||
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Locals kill them with .30-30s, .300 Savages, .270s, 7-08s, 6.5 Swedes, eieio. Not much ammo consideration goes into it, beyond what goes into selecting ammo for deer taken at 50 yds. More a matter of what's on the shelf at the local variety store. Then, ME allows backups and "seconds". Most always you can get a very decent presentation. And most guides instruct folks to keep shooting till it's down. Mostly to facilitate retrieval. Not because they can't be killed with one 130 gr Rem CL. A really big one will dress out around 1000 lbs, most 400-500. A premium 130, 140, 150 would suit me. Lighter end if monometal, heavier end otherwise. Which means that 140 gr Accubond would be fine. Unless you plan on deliberately punching shoulder balls. | |||
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I would use a 140 Grain Accubond. Or a 130 grain TSX. I was talked out of using my 270 Win with 140 grain Accubonds on my big Red Stag. I am convinced it would have been fine. But can not argue it would have been a better choice with the results I had. In all honesty, I would step up and use a 338, 375, 35 Whelen with good bullets. Not because I would have too, but because I could. I love the 270 Win and would use as above if need be and not worry. More is not mandatory, but this size animal makes me “reach for the driver.” Of the cover and range was such I knew more than likely I could get close, I would take a true Big Bore just for the fun of it. | |||
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If I were going to shoot a moose with my 270 I would load up 150 grain Swift A-frame bullets. They are similar in construction to the Nosler Partition but a little tougher, and also seem to find an accurate load easier. Dennis Life member NRA | |||
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.270 + 140AB = Dead Moose I recently shot a caribou and a muskox with a .270 with 130's and both were DRT Good luck on your hunt! I went with my friend Bob 10 years ago to help him pack out his Shiras in Unit 1a in ID. What a fun hunt it was. He got his bull at about 6500' on day 5. All down hill for the packout. We was surprised at how high the moose were. We wasted the first 2 days in the river bottoms and saw nothing but elk. All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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Agree and a premium bullet, Nosler Partition, Swift A-Frame, TSX etc. Regards, Chuck "There's a saying in prize fighting, everyone's got a plan until they get hit" Michael Douglas "The Ghost And The Darkness" | |||
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Layne Simpson reported that Col. Whelen killed his best moose with a .270 Winchester which was Col. Whelen’s favorite rifle. I have not been able to dig up the type of moose or bullet. | |||
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Use any well constructed 140 bullet and you will have a dead moose. Here is another way to think about. I doubt anybody would object to you using a 7mm. I doubt any moose will know the difference in .007 of an inch or even the expanded difference of say .0105 when the bullet passes through its lungs. Mike Legistine actu quod scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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I was camped at 11200 feet in the big horn mountains of Wyoming. We had 3 very big bull moose around camp for 3 days. | |||
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The 270 is fine if you use a proper bullet and stick it in the right spot..I would personally use a 160 gr. Noser partition..but any super premium bullet would work I suspect. As for myself on Moose who always decide when to die on their own while they graze after the hit, I opt for my 338 with 275 gr. Speer grand slams or 250 gr. Nosler partitions..Not saying no to the .270, just saying I prefer the .338 for moose..I hate it when they take a hit and wonder out into deep water then decide to die.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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