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I want to build a 9.3x62 on a Mauser or Model 70 action. It will have fancy wood. So, tell me, what would you build, trigger, barrel length, sights, etc? Thanks in advance! | ||
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I have a Rigby highland stalker in 9.3, I think its as close to the perfect rifle for that calibre you can get. | |||
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My action choice would be a good Mauser. If I could find one it would be the BRNO with the pop up peer sight built in. Stock it in a nice piece of walnut. Pachmyer flush sling swivel sockets in the read and just ahead of the action screw and a barrel band for the third swivel and a Ching Sling from Andy’s Leather. NEGC front sight with a single standing rear sight. Barrel either PacNor or a Krieger finished at 21 4/8ths. Top it all off with a high end 1-8 or 2.5-10. DRSS Kreighoff 470 NE Valmet 412 30/06 & 9.3x74R | |||
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I would use a FN or VZ24 action, 23 in barrel, NECG front and rear irons, barrel band sling mount. And a exceptional stock of English walnut. | |||
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All of my 9.3x62s are either 23 or 24” barrels. I think 22” would be fine also. The case, being almost the same capacity as a 30-06 (just a small bit more), uses about the same grains of powder, so 22”-24” seems ideal to me. I have one Dakota Custom Deluxe in 9.3x62, and all the rest are Ruger Africans (no muzzle brakes) or CZ 550 Americans, some stock, and (4) AHR option #3 by Wayne. So, I have no experience to help you with your choice of either a Mauser or Model 70. I’m sure you can buy a Mauser company rifle built in 9.3x62, and as has already been mentioned, Rigby is making them, on Mauser actions for a bit more(!) than a Mauser company made rifle. Of course, Winchester, CZ and Ruger actions are simply Mauser clones so that’s the way I went. The Custom rifles that Wayne built on the CZ actions are gorgeous, and the Ruger Africans that Lipsey’s came out with were really nice as well, and greatly affordable compared to the custom route. They came with black fore end tips, barrel band front sling swivels, island rear sights, banded front sights, Ruger integral scope bases, cross bolted, good Hawkeye triggers, etc. A lot for the money (I paid $1,000 each for mine when they first came out. Bought two!). The only thing I added was a 1” Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pad. Well, just some thoughts and suggestions. Good luck in your quest! | |||
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I always like to be a little different. If you 22 5/8 bbl length which is 57.5 cm. I would go no lower than a 2x7 scope and I would put it in a compact model and although we rarely use them, open sights look right on a 9,3x62 with some type of QD rings. The is of course just for style points as I said, they are rarely used. The 9,3x62 with 250 grn bullets is a 400 yard rifle so don't scrimp on accuracy variables such as a high quality scope with sufficient magnification. Mike Legistine actu? Quid scripsi? Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.  What I have learned on AR, since 2001: 1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken. 2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps. 3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges. 4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down. 5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine. 6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle. 7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions. 8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA. 9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not. 10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact. 11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores. 12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence. 13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances. | |||
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Mike is spot on saying the 9.3 with a properly loaded 250gr. pill is 400 yard medicine. It absolutely is. I’ve been running 286gr partitions in mine (*Merkel Helix) and can get 2,550 fps and .75 MOA accuracy. I back down to 2350 for normal use…but I was glad to note that I could get to Zim Minimum for Buffalo. Leica 2.5-10x on my 9.3x62. I don’t think I’d put that on a Rigby though. A rifle that pretty needs a scope to match the lines…my heart tells me that a Leupold VX3 2.5-8x High Gloss would be the perfect ticket. Or maybe a Schmidt & Bender - I think they still make a high gloss scope. Regards, Robert ****************************** H4350! It stays crunchy in milk longer! | |||
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I love a Mauser or anything Mauser-esque in a Commercial Oberndorf Mauser type A or B configuration. For a more modern type gun, I would loosely copy Phil Shoemaker’s Echols model 70. If I recall correctly, that gun has a pre-64 featherweight action (a 1994 to 2006 era New Haven Model 70 classic action with a REAL MODEL 70 TRIGGER would be fine.), a 21” black coated SS pre-64 featherweight contour barrel bedded in the lightest available Echols legend stock, a barrel band express front sight of some kind, and a Williams foolproof rear aperture. I would personally go with a 22” coated SS barrel. The rest would remain about the same. I might go with a quick release scope base system, of some sort, with a pop-up peep in the rear base. 4x fixed Leupould. Done. Matt FISH!! Heed the words of Winston Smith in Orwell's 1984: "Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." | |||
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I have built a plethora of them. Mostly on Mausers. One on a Mosin, which is the smoothest feeding and most accurate. (Stiffest actions) Ugly so most guys wont use one for anything. I do relocate the bolt handle to Mauser position. I use only Douglas barrels. I have found them to be the best by far. Yes I have used the others. Most were 25 inch barrels except this one; some guy wanted it in 22 5/8ths inches. NO idea why! Sights; I usually use NECG banded ramps and this one has the Model 70 rear. But in reality, they are just for looks; no one uses iron sights any more. Too old. Talley banded sling swivel. Timney triggers. Definitely no blackburn. I like the Wisner three (some guys want two) position Model 70 safety; again, for looks. Any safety is fine. I don't even know why rifles have safeties. How about don't pull the trigger. All but one I built in the original Oberndorf profile, (I have the pattern) which are most accurate due to the one step. They are easy to make feed from most any action. Here is the last one: I had no time for doing a stock for this one but this Boyds was less than the price of a checkering job and has a custom LOP. This one is on a VZ24. Any 98 will work fine. Sorry, no, Win, CZ, and Ruger are NOT Mauser clones. They all have some serious design changes/flaws. I can point them out, but not here.   | |||
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Mine is an original Fabrique Nationale (FN) 24" barrel (23.6), Its presently setting in a pattern stock to be turned if I ever get around to it, but this pattern stock is a custom stock with Schnable forfend 9"s , side panels fitted up to the gun and basically finished, felt great 30 years ago, shoots great so its yet to be finished and probley never will be as Im totally satisfied as is..Its been to Africa and all over the USA, shot lots of game and has a home..Great caliber and has a 250-3000 brother..shoots 320 Woodleighs, 286 partitions, and 250 Accubonds. Its a little scuffed these day. Has a 3x or 4x fixed Leupold depending my mood! A big game animal of about any name has a kill zone of 12 inches at least so I Don't feel the need for a scope over 4x, nor a variable as a rule and I want a wide field of view and I never shoot over 400 yards except on rare occasions these days My point is build it to suit you and only you.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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A stock ruger African is perfect in my opinion | |||
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Yes, I had one and it was perfect. But I can't help it; building them is sort of the point for me. | |||
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There is a great one built by Ed LaPour on Hallowell's website. I have a similar one built by Dave Norin. And a 9.3x64 built by Lon Paul, I like the .366's. English express style with sights is a classic imo... On the plains of hesitation lie the bleached bones of ten thousand, who on the dawn of victory lay down their weary heads resting, and there resting, died. If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with Kings - nor lose the common touch... Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son! - Rudyard Kipling Life grows grim without senseless indulgence. | |||
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$12.9K. Top end custom. | |||
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Ross, Since you're considering a 9.3x62 think about a 9.3x66 AKA 370 Sako. It's just a little more akin to the difference between the 375 H&H and the 375 WBY. Lon Paul built mine and I get 2700 fps + with 250 ACB and right at 2600 with the 286 NP. Ain't no flies on that one from a basic 30-06 case. I built mine inexpensively on a Husky action, Boyd's stock that Lon reconfigured and a Douglas barrel. If you did a Cerakote finish, added open sites and a barrel band sling swivel stud you couldn't tell it from a high end custom. Mark MARK H. YOUNG MARK'S EXCLUSIVE ADVENTURES 7094 Oakleigh Dr. Las Vegas, NV 89110 Office 702-848-1693 Cell, Whats App, Signal 307-250-1156 PREFERRED E-mail markttc@msn.com Website: myexclusiveadventures.com Skype: markhyhunter Check us out on https://www.facebook.com/pages...ures/627027353990716 | |||
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I like my Zastava action because it is a Mauser, therefore authentic for this cartridge and comparitively light. The safety works for me but some complain that it may not be as safe as others, so perhaps a Timney trigger with safety might be indicated. Also, be sure to get stock crossbolts or at least one behind the magazine. | |||
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Ross, Build a 9.3x70 DWM Magnum. Most powerful 9.3. Arjun | |||
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Brass? | |||
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Take a Browning FN Mauser Safari Model, rebore and rechamber to 9.3x62. send the stock to Renner or somebody similar to trim down the stock, rechecker, oil finish and maybe replace the alloy bottom metal with quality steel. Mount a Swaro Z3 3x9x36. You're done! | |||
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A 98 in 9,3x62 is hard to beat. I'm down to a handful now but this little guy is my favorite scoped model.  This one was also nice:  Both the above built off Military 98 actions. Here's another 98 open sight only:  Barrels on all the above are 23.6" And this little guy when a 62 isn't enough: 9,3x64, 23.6", Zastava action.   Aut vincere aut mori | |||
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I'm no expert on the matter, but I've been advocating for my friend Gale Johnson to build a nice trim 9.3 on one of the BRNO 21 actions in his possession for some time now. Personally, I'd opt for a traditional 60cm barrel with a front sight only and keep a NECG receiver sight with a large aperture handy if wanted or needed. I would also include rings and trigger from Alaska Arms. I'd finish it in salt bath nitride. I believe an elegant Rigby style stock with a POW grip would bring it to its fullest potential. Just my $.02 All We Know Is All We Are | |||
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I builty a mod 21 Brno with both original barrels a 7x57 and a 8x57. switch barrel, then rebored the 8x57 to a 9,3x62, and custom stocked it with beautiful dark Russian walnut..everything fit up and matched and it shot pin holes and most loads to the same POI..Great rifle but a friend client offered me more than I could turn down so it went down the road and I kept the pictures but a switch barrel is of no interest to me after that exercise, never had the right barrel on when I needed it. Opted for two guns..I also had a Ruger African that was awesome but they were special order and went sky high so I sold that one also, but never fear my FN was always in the gun closet,and still is along with a 640 Husky, both 9,3x62. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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What I did was to go out and buy a Husqvarna with the M98 action and try it out before spending anymore money on it. Well it turned out that I found a specimen in very good shape for its age (1948) and it’s a nice round to shoot. I will eventually replace the stock with something more suitable for use with a scope. | |||
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I need to get a stock turned for my 9.3. I’ve had a barreled action in the safe for a few years now. I have a English blank, need to send it off to get turned. The barreled action for my 93x62 is a Dumoulin Mauser with a Shilen barrel, Timmey trigger. Seems like I had Dennis Olson fit the barrel and straight bolt handle. I’ll get around to it one of these days. Along with the other 4-5 barreled actions/projects I’ve started. Billy, High in the shoulder (we band of bubbas) | |||
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I got a real deal on a 9x3x62 as new Ruger Hawkeye African, I will try to keep this one,but maybe not, it's my nature, and a character flaw. I seem to bounce back and forth between the 338 Win and a 9,3x62, apparently that will never change. Combine that with mod 70 pre 64 and a African Hawkeye Ruger, nothings a given in my gun world. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Thanks for all of the help. I am narrowing it down now. All of these are great ideas. Why is this not a more popular caliber? Reminds me of the .280 Rem. The pedigree is good but not real popular.... Looking hard at Parkwest (old Dakota) right now. | |||
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Cabela’s in la vista has 9.3 in a 76 on the rack right now. So tempting but I already have 4 or 5 9.3s | |||
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Hey Ray, I picked up the Lipsey's version of that rifle 2nd hand, but NIB. This one will be a keeper. It's the first action that needed nothing done to it before I traipsed off to other lands with it. I tried every which way to get that action to fail feeding or extracting and it just chugged right along. That's saying a lot from someone as anal as I am. I've taken a number of Cape Buffalo cows with it (great fun, BTW) using 300 grain A-Frames. A cow from last season was taken at 35 feet. Great rifle and cartridge. | |||
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Hey dogcat, I asked a Hornady rep at a conference/show why no bonded bullet for the 9.3mm for use on DG? His response was "the Interlock is a proven performer". I walked away with a note to self to order up a bunch more A-Frames... | |||
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I prefer the 286 Nosler and the 250 Accubond, there are plenty of good 9,3 bullets to be had other than Hornady's. Swift has a wonderful 300 gr. Woodleigh will soon be back in business. The monolithic fields are abundant with 9,3 options, Barnes being the leader it seems. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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