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I`m planning to use the semi spitzer Nosler Part. 220grs in my .300H&H against african plains game, european red stags and wildboars. Anybody experience with this combo and perhaps some loading data? My loading: Norma reformed .375 H&H cases, Federal 210M, 65grs Kemira N550. | ||
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Monastery-Forester, I would also take a look at the 200 grain Nosler Partition. It also has a high sectional density (0.301) and you can start it out at a much higher velocity (>2800fps). I have used this load several times in Africa and it is deadly. In fact it has given me the most one shot drop in their track kills; used it out to 350 yards; and shot an Eland end-to-end (plenty of penetration ~5ft.). | |||
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I have used the 220 NP on Plains Game and can assure you it works great, and I actually prefer it to the 200 gr NP. Remember, forgivness is easier to get than permission. | |||
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That bullet is the standard bullet I use in Africa with great success on all plains game. The only change is I use it in a 30-06. Have never seen the necessity for a 300 Win Mag. I found it to particularly effective on Tesessebe and Wildebeast and Kudu out to 300yds. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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Never used it in Africa and I have no desire to ever go to Africa... however it is my favorite 30 caliber bullet... it will plow through about anything that gets in its way... its high sectional density, and his SMP nose opens up better to me than a spitzer... it is also more accurate in the rifles that I have used it in, compared to the 180, and 200 grain partitions... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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Nosler Reloading Guide (5th edition) here is some 220 grain Nosler Partition load data. lists H-4831sc as the most accurate powder tested 65.0 grs H-4831sc; MV=2645fps (listed as MAX load) 65.0 grs RL-22; MV=2703fps (listed as MAX load) 59.5 grs IMR-4350; MV=2629fps (listed as MAX load) 58.5 grs Viht N160; MV=2527fps (listed as MAX load) 67.5 grs IMR-7828; MV=2702fps (listed as MAX load) 63.5 grs RL-19; MV=2695fps (listed as MAX load) 64.0 grs AA-3100; MV=2654fps (listed as MAX load) All loads used Winchester brass; CCI#250 primers; OAL=3.600"; test barrel was 24" the 220 grain Nosler Partition has SD=0.331 & BC=0.351 Hope this helps you out. | |||
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add me to this recommendation. The 200 grain accubond is worth a look too as is the 200 grain A-Frame. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." Winston Churchill | |||
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In approximate figures, with the right powders your .300 H&H will shoot a 180 @ 2900 fps, a 200 @ 2800 fps, and a 220 @ 2700 fps. None of the plains game species will know the difference. Either the Accubond or the Partition will work well. Shoot the bullet that your gun likes the best. If you expect to hunt where there are longer shot opportunities, the lighter two bullets offer a slight advantage in trajectory. If your shot opportunities are limited to 200 yards or less, then the heavier bullet is of no disadvantage. Why sweat it? You can't go wrong. | |||
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For one of coolest guys on all of Accuratereloading that is the strangest thing I've ever seen you write. ?Por Que? PS I had trouble getting the 220 NPT to shoot well in my 30'06 M700 before my African trip. FWIW I found "Old Reliable" is anything but when fed roundnose 220 gr Hornady softs, which killed very well but would not feed in a hurry. S'pose I'd try 200s were I to bring an '06 again. Nah, I'd probably give the Woodleigh 240s a spin. | |||
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I used the Nosler 200 Partitions when I went to africa for the Plains Game out of my 300 RUM. | |||
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My JC Higgins 30-06 didn't shoot the 220s worth a damn. If yours will I think it will stretch the 300s effectiveness about as far as it can go. | |||
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i've shot an awful lot of plains game with the 200 gr partition in a 300 WM without ever having a problem. for that matter the 165 in the old 06 has kill a hellofvalot stuff too | |||
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Thanks for the Kudos there.. but I have no desire to go to Africa.. I'd probably go about everywhere else in the world first, to hunt there... Africa just doesn't turn my crank.. even had the offer to go there for free about 15 years ago.. Besides the politics, the danger of the societies over there.. shooting most of the game available in Africa just doesn't do it for me.. I'd take hunting in S America, Europe, Russia, Mongolia, Australia and NZ first... Guess I am just strange... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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I've never seen the 220NP used in Africa, but a mate of mine used it out of a 300WM on camels here in Oz......ruined their day Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!! Blair. | |||
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Blair, I hope Saeed doesn't see this post.... he'll get P.O.'ed if he knows you are wasting perfectly good camels down in Oz... on a side note, the British brought some Camels as pack animals to British Columbia in the mid 1860s.. they didn't exactly become very popular, folks preferring horses and mules... so eventually they just let them loose an figured the winter or wild animals would just kill them quickly... well Camels were tougher than the British expected... the last know one died in 1914! it had been brought to BC in 1867... pretty hard animals.. even if they do look stupid... Life Member: The American Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Jan 20, 2009.. Prisoner in Dumocrat 'Occupied America', Partisan in the 'Save America' Underground Beavis..... James Beavis..... Of Her Majesty's Secret Service..... Spell Check Division "Posterity — you will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it." John Quincy Adams A reporter did a human-interest piece on the Texas Rangers. The reporter recognized the Colt Model 1911 the Ranger was carrying and asked him "Why do you carry a 45?" The Ranger responded, "Because they don't make a 46." Duhboy....Nuttier than Squirrel Poop... | |||
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Seafire, I believe that we have the largest free ranging herds of camels in the world............ They are tough, that's for sure. A mate of mine who served with the 1st REP said they were good sport with a 50 cal Hecate Verbera!, Iugula!, Iugula!!! Blair. | |||
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I love those 220 gr. Noslers and Woodleighs in my 300 H&H and in my 30-06 the 200s are fantastic. I actually believe the 200 gr. Nosler is a little tougher bullet than the 220 gr., or so it seems to me..The 200 also shoots flater according to the books, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it from a practical point of view... I have used both extensively and your will be pleased with either.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I noticed the 220grs seem a little softer than the 200's in the Partition bullet as well. Got great expansion with them, my dad's .30-06 loves them and the bullets hit like lightning in the thick stuff. The 200's expanded less. But then again, you never really see 220gr bullets loaded into, say .300 magnums, but it is loaded in the .30-06 so my suspicion is that the 220gr is designed for .30-06 velocities primarily, while the 200gr is suited for .30-06 at the lower end with the .300 mags being ideal. All I know is my old .30-06 A-bolt didn't like either of them and didn't really perform that well with 180's either, so off it went. My new .300 WM loves the 200gr A-Frame though, so ________ "...And on the 8th day, God created beer so those crazy Canadians wouldn't take over the world..." | |||
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