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Jay Gorski
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What is your idea of the ideal rifle that Rem, Win. Ruger, Savage, whatever, should build for varmints, Deer hunting, and/or Large, dangerous game? Jay
 
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Jay--I'd sure like Rem to make their Mtn rifle in a 338/06 all in a matte or satin finish.

Also their clasic in a 6/06.....

"GET TO THE HILL"

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I can only think of improvements that the companies can make with existing models.

How about a bolt that wouldnt get hung up in my gear? Or a box magazine that doesnt rattle? Or sling swivels that don't go "tic tic" while I'm walking! [Mad]
 
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I want someone (probably Ruger) to make a double rifle that costs less than $2000.
 
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What is your idea of the ideal rifle that Rem, Win. Ruger, Savage, whatever, should build for varmints, Deer hunting, and/or Large, dangerous game? Jay
I'd like a Savage 24V in .243/20 gauge; the Krieghoff (?) Ultra 20 is just too much money for this stage of my life...

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Jay, since this is all hypothetical [Big Grin] I would like a Weatherby .340 at Weatherby quality at Savage prices. [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
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I'd like to be able to get some of the Winchester Target rifles with the quality of the 1950 standards.

Also wish guys like me could get some affordable quality Winchesters and Rugers in some of the Fading Away Calibers, like 250 Savage, 6.5 x 57, 6.5 x 54, 30/40 Krag, a bolt action in 30/30 like a Winchester Model 54,( and in 35 Remington)
25/35, 30 and 32 Remingtons.

Not all of us think we need a 500 yd caliber to kill a 100 pound deer at 50 yds.
[Confused] [Roll Eyes] [Razz]
 
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What is your idea of the ideal rifle that Rem, Win. Ruger, Savage, whatever, should build for varmints, Deer hunting, and/or Large, dangerous game? Jay
I'll go along with the idea of a reasonably priced double rifle. I think it would be great to get the Ruger #1 in 500 NE from the factory.
 
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I want someone (probably Ruger) to make a double rifle that costs less than $2000.
EAA is already doing it. Should retail in the 700 dollar range.

I want Ruger to lighten the barrel up on their M77 magnum rifle, and chamber it for the .300 and perhaps one of the smaller H&H cartridges, .244 H&H maybe.
 
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How about *reasonably* prized custom barrels for the Blaser R93?? Imagine that, getting a .257 Roberts in the R93 at any twist rate or contour you might fancy, all that paying maybe $400 ready to go...
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What is your idea of the ideal rifle that Rem, Win. Ruger, Savage, whatever, should build for varmints, Deer hunting, and/or Large, dangerous game? Jay
Iam glad you asked.

Jay, I want my beloved Sako 75 Hunter, to come in a left-handed version.

Yeah, I know...they came out THIS YEAR, for Pete's sake, with a lefty..And made it in wood only!!

Iam a practicle guy...give me stainless and synthetic!! [Big Grin] ..sakofan..
 
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I'd like to be able to get some of the Winchester Target rifles with the quality of the 1950 standards.

Also wish guys like me could get some affordable quality Winchesters and Rugers in some of the Fading Away Calibers, like 250 Savage, 6.5 x 57, 6.5 x 54, 30/40 Krag, a bolt action in 30/30 like a Winchester Model 54,( and in 35 Remington)
25/35, 30 and 32 Remingtons.

Not all of us think we need a 500 yd caliber to kill a 100 pound deer at 50 yds.
[Confused] [Roll Eyes] [Razz]
I just wish more manufactors would offer thier rifles in component form. I'm having a Winchester M70 300 H&H built now. It would have been nice not to have to dissassemble a perfectly good donor rifle for the prodject. The Montana actions weren't avalible at the time. I'll go that route next time.
I like the fast stuff, but I agree with you 100% It seems like they could make a lot of this stuff on a special order basis. I know it would cost more, but I'm sure there's a market for it and most wouldn't mind waiting.
I'm not a big Remington fan but I do like thier "classic" series where they make a limited run of classic cartridges on a nice 700 BDL gun. I wish other comany's did more of the same.
 
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I want Winchester to make a pre-64 M70 just like they used to make them. In .404 Jeff.
 
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I would like to see marlin offer a .50 Alaskan lever gun.

I would like cz to offer the .505 Gibbs or a .500 cal of some description. I would like cz's to also come with a good sythetic stock.

I would also like Marlin to have a synthetic stock of good quality for there levers.
 
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A Ruger 77I in .358 Win, for brush-country hog-stalking, and in the traditional full-stock calibers of 7x57 and/or 6.5x55 for northeastern whitetail and black bear.
 
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I want Winchester to make a pre-64 M70 just like they used to make them. In .404 Jeff.
How much are you willing to pay?
 
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My first choice would be a Ruger #1A in .22LR and or .22RFM, with the assorted niceties of good wood and a quality trigger (Really Adjustable) Most interestingly this rifle should be built as to the metal on a 7/8's scale sort of like a 20ga frame vs the 12. I know that I will never live long enough for Ruger to consider this package, but a man can dream of his rewards...
 
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I want winchester to go against the odds and develope a new cartridge on the .284 case. Just a simple neck up to 8mm(.323) with a COL of maybe 3.12 inches that could handle bullet weights from 250 grain woodleighs down to probably 170 grain at most on the low end due to the short neck. And a 1 in 10 twist barrel. If they don't I will because I'm different....or is that special? Call it the 8mm Express. Enough with all this general jumping from .30 bore to .338 bore; let's have a new true(non-mag) baby medium bore. Well....it was a thought!
 
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I like most Left Handers would like to see Ruger bring out the Magnum action in port side, and I wish CZ would see the lite and also do same, barring that, I am waiting to see the new Kimber left hand 84
 
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Basically, I want Remington to make the Model 700 as well as they made it twenty-five years ago.

I want Winchester to make the Model 70 pretty-much as in its current form, but with no knurling on the bolt handle; better tolerances, precision, fit, finish; and a real, spring-steel extractor. I'd also like to see them cashier the Featherweight stock and introduce a "Super Grade Featherweight", complete with the current Super Grade stock.

I also want Winchester to recreate an American-made Model 92 that's true to the design, appearance, and quality of the original rifle, as well as the Model 52 C Sporter and Model 61.

Browning - Real simple: Dump the A-Bolt and re-introduce the old High-Power (Safari Grade, etc.) I'd like to see a quality-built bolt-gun from you once again.

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Basically, I want Remington to make the Model 700 as well as they made it twenty-five years ago.

I want Winchester to make the Model 70 pretty-much as in its current form, but with no knurling on the bolt handle; better tolerances, precision, fit, finish; and a real, spring-steel extractor. I'd also like to see them cashier the Featherweight stock and introduce a "Super Grade Featherweight", complete with the current Super Grade stock.

I also want Winchester to recreate an American-made Model 92 that's true to the design, appearance, and quality of the original rifle, as well as the Model 52 C Sporter and Model 61.

Browning - Real simple: Dump the A-Bolt and re-introduce the old High-Power (Safari Grade, etc.) I'd like to see a quality-built bolt-gun from you once again.

AD
Now were talking [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

I would like mauser to make the mod 98 as they used to be and not some POS high tech over complicated product. I want Brno to make zg-47 and m-221/22 again,and why not a magnum receiver. I want all the European makers to go back to production line they had before WW:2.

What did a pre 64 win cost back then and what would it be in todays moeny?

/ JOHAN
 
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Personally, I want a short light, elk capable rifle

Some features:

a) switch barrel capacity, for off season practice. Traditional barrel tenon is fine, though. I'll spin them off and on.
b) rotary magazine to go with a)
c) less than 42 inch rifle length
d) around 7 lbs dry weight
e) integral scope bases
f) slick short throw pump action, solid feel.
g) tang safety.
h) superb trigger.
i) half m.o.a. capable.
j) factory decelerator pad or similar.
k) floating barrel.

In a perfect world, it would come in something like a 35 WSM or 376 Steyer. An ideal grizzly country companion....

You think the guys at MRC would make a mould? LOL! Dutch.
 
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I can only think of improvements that the companies can make with existing models
Better out of the box quality. I shouldn't have to bed the action, free-float the barrel and pay for a trigger adjustment on a "new" rifle.

Follow Savage's lead and make owner adjustable triggers.

I would like to see the big rifle companies make it easier to order rifles in custom calibers such as 9.3 x 62, 338-06, 250 Savage etc. without having to spend a zillion dollars at their respective custom shops.

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How about more than just one company's .338-06?

After that, I would like manufacturers to improve existing products with reliability and safety in mind, but not by adding a locking mechanism to rifle bolts like Remington does, nor having a 6-pound trigger like Ruger does, etc.

And no new calibers, please! We already have enough of those.
 
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Follow Savage's lead and make owner adjustable triggers.
Maybe it's because Savage has been making a big deal in the press about their Accu-Trigger, but the implication that Savage is first with an owner-adjustable trigger is simply not true.

Sakos and Tikkas have had owner adjustable triggers since the Finnbear (Sako) and the Whitetail series (Tikka). The Sako 75's trigger is impressive, does not need a visually obnoxious "safety blade", and can be adjusted without taking the action off the stock (unlike Savage).

If anybody should be followed, it should be Sako.
 
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I want Savage to re-introduce the .260 Rem chambering in their Varmint and LE model line, preferably with a 26: 1:8" twist barrel. It would also go well with their lightweight hunter line.

I would also like the rest of the manufacturers who make rifles in this chambering to stop treating it like a Varmint cartridge, and put enough twist in the rifling to handle 120-155gr bullets, like 1:8".

Right now, I'm getting 3rd place finishes at Bodines PA's 1000yd "F" Class matches using a reworked Savage 10FP in .260 Rem, shooting from a bipod. The caliber can handle the yardage, and the Savage action is well enough made to serve as the basis of a pretty competitive, lightweight, lower cost target rifle.

Greg

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I was looking over a M-70 in .30-06 one of those LT Miller designed stocked ones. All in all I thought it was pretty good, for what they wanted for the rifle. Yep they should use spring steel for there extractors and the trigger should be 4lbs. All in all it would take some minor tuning before I would hunt with it. A good rifle at a very good price. Now if they would just make an old Moose and Elk hunter happy, how bout chambering rifles for the 9.3 x 62 and Federal could make some ammo, they have a line on Nosler Bullets and Nosler makes a 286 gr Partition. I would also chamber the .338-06 as a matter of principle. I may buy that 70 and have my smith do his thing and rebarrel to 9.3 x 62. I get what I want for about the price of what they want retail for a Super Grade. Oh another winter project.
 
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I'll echo a few of Allen Day's comments.

First, I wish all of them would go back to putting out a high quality product.

Ruger, I'd like to see a No.1A in 22 LR (as mentioned above). Maybe bring back the No.3 in 38-55 and 32-20. Introduce a 5 shot Bisley and Redhawk in the 500 Linebaugh. Actually produce a couple of Gold Labels (sure would like a 16 gauge), or enough of them for a few to make it to Alaska.

Winchester, I'd like to see them reintroduce the 1886 in the 50-110. Bring back the M88 in 308 or 284 Win. Bring the M71, M52 and 21's back. Make a Super Grade Featherweight chambered in the 257 Bob or 250 Savage. Please bring the quality and care back of the pre-64's (all across the board).

Browning, (like Allen said) dump the A-Bolt and bring back the Safari (professional hunter, whatever the FN mauser actioned rifle was called).

Remington, fix the trigger. I'm tired of hearing all the fussing and fighting it generates. Reintroduce the M30 or make a new CRF action from scratch.

Mauser, start cranking out the 98's with the features everyone is putting on the old ones.

Please bring back adjustable triggers industry wide.
 
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I too, would like to be able to buy a nice Mauser type sporter, true to the original in a classy old calibre. You know, one like our fathers had.

It would be nice to see the A, B, C, K, M, and S types available again. Mauser could do it. Browning should do it as they haven't built anything great in decades.

CZ's are selling like hotcackes, that should tell them something!

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A 22" bbl. light, accurate bolt gun in 358 Win. with a long enough magazine to seat heavy bullets in the neck only. In other words, a low priced ULA Mod. 20.
 
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I would like to see a tang safety and iron sights on all CZ 550's, and move the magazine release inside the trigger guard similar to ruger's magazine release.

I would also like to see a NECG peep sight for the CZ 550.

David
 
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I want someone (probably Ruger) to make a double rifle that costs less than $2000.
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EAA is already doing it. Should retail in the 700 dollar range.

True, but I want it offered in at least .375, .416 and .458, or even better-.458 Lott!
 
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Between the CZ 550, Howa 1500, and Sako 75, American rifles don't stand a chance. Those three suit me just fine the way they come.
 
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I want Savage to re-introduce the .260 Rem chambering in their Varmint and LE model line, preferably with a 26: 1:8" twist barrel. It would also go well with their lightweight hunter line.

I would also like the rest of the manufacturers who make rifles in this chambering to stop treating it like a Varmint cartridge, and put enough twist in the rifling to handle 120-155gr bullets, like 1:8".

Right now, I'm getting 3rd place finishes at Bodines PA's 1000yd "F" Class matches using a reworked Savage 10FP in .260 Rem, shooting from a bipod. The caliber can handle the yardage, and the Savage action is well enough made to serve as the basis of a pretty competitive, lightweight, lower cost target rifle.

Greg
Ditto.

Greg, the thought to turn a 223 Rem Savage 12BVSS into a XC match rifle has crossed my mind more than once.
 
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Weatherby bring out a 6.5/240 cartridge for their Ultr-Lightweight rifle.
 
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Ditto on the Mauser. Anymore, I'm looking for any gunmaker who gives a rats ass about the quality of his product (Anybody on this forum work for Remington, Winchester, Ruger, Browning?
I bet not.)
 
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I'd like to see Ruger ditch that single folding rear sight on their light, medium and tropical No. 1 models, and replace it with a 3 leaf, like they use on the M77 magnum rifles.
 
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whiteeagle, I REALLY like your idea of a Ruger 77 International in 358 cal. You might like my idea of a #1A in 35 Whelen. I might just have to have that one made custom one day if Ruger doesn't do it. They did the 405 in the too-heavy 'H' model, why not a Whelen in the handy/handsome/light-enough 'A' model? It would be a shame to cut on my #1A 7x57, but desperate men take desperate measures. [Smile]

I saw a #1 in 357 Mag advertised the other day. I wonder if it could be rechambered to Whelen. Anybody ever do this?

Live well, shoot Ruger #1s.
 
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Orion 1;

I've had similar notions. My plan has some difficulties, but I've thought f some solutions for them, too.

First, the blind mag well makes XTC reloads nearly impossible. What I intend is to use two piece scope bases, and incorporate a stripper clip guide into a shim to add slope to the scope mounting, and permit stripper clips to be used for reloading when the scope is off and a micrometer rear sight is substituted. They make one that fit weaver rails very nocely. Care needs to be taken when shimming the rear of a two-piece scope mount to add slope, as it causes misalignement between ring centers. Therefore the front and rear bases also need to be bedded to the new angle, or the scope tube will very likely be bent/damaged

The front sight needs the muzzle to be turned to .750" to acommodate a standard interface front Highpower/Palma sight mount. When turning, make the step long enough to allow the sight and mount to be repositioned fore and aft to also serve as a barrel harmonic tuner. Also, make a weight that has the identical mass and mounting as the sight, so that when the sight is removed for scope use, the weight takes its place, and barrel harmonics are not altered.

For larger calibers, the mag will not hold 5 rounds.

My plan is to see if I can get an S/A 5rd M1A magazine to mount up beneath the Savage short action, as a permanent mag, or alternatively, extend the existing mag box to handle the 5th round. If I need to cut a hole in the bottom of the stock so it can fit, so be it. It can be covered with a sheetmetal plate or something like that.

Another approach would be to duplicate the mechanics of the M1A/M14 mag well and simply use those mags as detachables. The same mag can accomodate .308, 7-08, .260. and .243, since they are all built on the same basic case.

The basic idea of the shim/stripper clip guide can also be used; and the detachable mag method might also be made to work with AR mags.

Greg
 
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Less profit on guns that require "tweaking" to make them shoot well?
I'd love a Marlin lever in 50 Alaskan, or a factory bolt action in 30/30, 358 Winchester or 450 Marlin.
Fabarm to re-introduce its Gamma AL shotgun from way back...
Cheers...
Con

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