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9.3/375 barrel contour question
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For all you guys that own 9.3's/375's. What is your muzzle diameter, length of barrel and total weight of your rifle?

I am in the process of having a 9.3x64 rifle built. I am trying to decide on barrel contour. I need hard numbers because my gunsmith is going to turn the barrel to whatever contour we decide.

I am thinking I want this rifle to end up weighing between 8.5 and 9 lbs. My theory is that I will carry it a whole bunch more than I will shoot it.

Thanks for any replies in advance.
 
Posts: 2034 | Location: Black Mining Hills of Dakota | Registered: 22 June 2005Reply With Quote
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I can offer a CZ 550 American in 9.3X62. Barrel lenght is 23.6" Muzzel diameter is .615". Weight of the rifle with stock steel rings and a Burris 1.75X5 Signature Safari scope is about 8.75 pounds. To me the rifle seems a bit heavy compared to others that I own. It is balanced however.

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Thanks Ron
 
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Muzzle diameter doesn't tell you much. You have to take into account the whole barrel and its taper. Don't overlook the cylindrical portion just ahead of teh receiver.

Many barrels have slim muzzles only to have a full sized 1.25" cylinder ahead of the receiver that's three inches long. That puts most of your weight just ahead of the action. Contrast this to many German barrels which were not much larger than 1" ahead of the receiver but were .650" at the muzzle. Because they started slim and had a long slow taper it puts more weight out front giving great balance for off hand shooting and they are fairly lightweight.




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I will carry it a whole bunch more than I will shoot it.


bingo.....this is on the right track!!

My .375 H&H muzzle Dia is .675 and my 9.3 X 62 muzzle diameter is .640. I build from the lightest profile I can find and add weight if necessary at the end. It's easier to epoxy into the stock some lead shot than try to remove weight.


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I have a .375 Weatherby, Montana 1999 with their 24 " No.4 barrel in an Echols-McMillan magnum fill stock. Leupold 1.75 X 6 in screw-lock detachable Talleys. Weight 9.6 lbs. Recoil with 300 gr factory rounds - hefty. Smiler


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I am building a 9.3x62 with a Lothar Walther #724 contour barrel. 26" shortened to 24". 0.768" at the muzzle, 1.142" just forward of the receiver. Goal is an easy shooting, weight forward rifle.
 
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The 724 is one heavy barrel.




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Mike, I have it in a B&C synthetic stock, it feels good with the weight forward. Have not fired it in that stock yet.
 
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Fred, I hear ya. I like a little weight forward too. But I had a 722 and a 724 in front of me and much preferred the 722. Luckily, a customer liked the 724 better so all is well. But this illustrates why we have rifles built and don't just pick them up off the rack. Mine is a 7 lb open sight rifle.




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Mike,

Jim (Gunmaker) and I have been discussing this at length. Jim can turn this barrel to whatever dimensions is desired.

I am not trying to make this a flyweight rifle, but I would rather err too light than too heavy. It is getting a quarter rib and needs to not only look good but also blend. This gun will mostly shoot 250gr TSX's between 2700-2800fps and possibly, 286gr, if the need should ever arise for maximum penetration.

I am leaning towards .650-.670 at the muzzle, approx 23" length.

But I was just looking for what other rifles were coming in at for muzzle diam and weight.
 
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Yeah, Jim can do up your barrel in whatever contour you want. I'd trust his judgment first and foremost on the project.

But, since you asked, the LW Art 724 weighs 3.5 lbs. with a muzzle diameter of ~ .770" at 25.6" length.

The Article 722 has a muzzle diameter of .650" also at 25.6" and weighs 2.5 lbs. Since my goal was a rifle of no more than 7.5 lbs the choice was simple.

If you add the pound or more that a scope and rings add you are right in the ballpark of where you want to be.

I tend to like barrels that quickly get small just ahead of the chamber then have a long slow taper out to the muzle. This keeps the barrel weight down while putting the weight forward. This is only my preference because it makes offhand shooting easier for me. YMMV.




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Mike,
Appreciate the input. I think we are leaning in the right direction, just making sure.

No way do I want .770 MD, I know that is way to big, we were actually discussing 0.620 MD.

Being a litttle OCD, I measued every rifle I own and tried to figure the ratio between bore diameter and muzzle diameter and keep coming up with .650-.670 for a nice lighter weight hunting rifle.

Jim is very much in the loop on this and I keep telling him that I trust his judgement. Bill Soverns has also been in the loop, another opinion I trust.
 
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vapo,
What does 9.3x62 weight, what action etc?
 
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I've got a custom 24" Shillen barrel on a Vz-24 action:

1.21" at receiver for 1"
tapers to .890" 3" from receiver
tapers to .750 12" from receiver
.710" at muzzle

Rifle w/ scope = 8.75 Lbs
Balances well!


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Most of the 9.3x64s I have owned had .620 to .700 at the muzzle depending on length, and the ones I liked best were 26 inches as the 9.3x64 really used that long tube well....


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