FYI!!! Just got through loading for the resently aquired Stevens Mod.200 7mm. Rem. Mag.The throating depth only allowed these OALS.

139gr Flat Point, =3.115"

150gr, psp Speer, =3.230"

154gr Spire ??? =3.285"

The bases of the 150gr. and 154gr. bullets had to be pushed in all the way to the shoulder body junction.

I guess I'll always have a problem with this type cartridge designing. roger

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&mm Rem Mag. Stevens mod 200.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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&mm Rem Mag. Stevens mod 200.

7MM!

If you hit shift and 7 you get &!

Roger, I didn't think you liked the Savages. Or was it just the Accutriggers?

I just installed a Stevens take off in 7mm on a Savage, but have not found a good combo for it yet. I don't know if its the loads, my bedding, or my bench technique.

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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&mm Rem Mag. Stevens mod 200.

It's what you call a screw up, VD. Held down the shift key in error . Should be a 7. roger

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Originally posted by bja105:

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Originally posted by vapodog:

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&mm Rem Mag. Stevens mod 200.

Roger, I didn't think you liked the Savages. Or was it just the Accutriggers?.

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The truth is I don't like my Accutrigger. If I had a good one as others profess they have ,I'd like it.

The Stevens Mod 200s ,like any other rifle have pluses and minuses.

I've tried to stay objective when posting my findings.The price , barrel change feature,AFTER THE FIRST SWAP, and the over all feel are what I find most to my liking. I got the 7mm because I didn't have a 200 with a Magnum bolt face.It probably will get a new or modified barrel some time in the future.

Loading the, new to me, in line magazines is a mystery that kind of throws me. I'll have to look into seeing if a simple modification can be found.

If I needed a truely dependable off the shelf hunting rifle and price was no factor the Mod. 200 Stevens would not even be an also ran, but they are nice affordable toys. roger

Think of how long your barrel will last....you'll be able to increase seating depth for a while!

It's probably better that way than the guy who got his chambered 1/4 inch longer than yours and can't figure out why his brass won't last....

At least you can replace the barrel pretty reasonably if you can't live with it.

Cheers,

Dan

If mag length allows you can seat longer....

Just get yourself a throating reamer and extend the leade...

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So loading a 160 or 175 is out of the question? That just won't work.

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Originally posted by stillbeeman:
So loading a 160 or 175 is out of the question? That just won't work.

Right om amigo roger

Sounds like the reamer had little or no throat on it. Maybe needs to be cut now.

I've got my asbestos drawers on so I will ask the question that begs to be asked, if you can't load a 160 or 175 in the damn thing, what is the purpose of buying a 7mag? Colour me clueless.

I can't resist the flaming. The bore will be a little rough anyway so load up some tubbs firelap loads and move the throat out .030! Every factory rifle barrel I have done "3" has shot better, "alot" and cleaned easier when done. It isn't like you will run 5k rounds ever down the pipe.

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Originally posted by Allan DeGroot:
If mag length allows you can seat longer....

Just get yourself a throating reamer and extend the leade...AD

If I start to remove metal from that tube it'll be a different chamber with a sensible throat depth. probably have to go single shot but that's no biggy to me. roger

Roger, that's what a throating reamer does, makes the throat different, or since you prefer "sensible to your personal needs wants and/or desires".

Remember you can always remove metal, putting it back is generally more complicated.

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Originally posted by stillbeeman:
I've got my asbestos drawers on so I will ask the question that begs to be asked, if you can't load a 160 or 175 in the damn thing, what is the purpose of buying a 7mag? Colour me clueless.

I'd ask a slightly different question...
if you want to shoot 175's why buy a 7mmMag instead of a 300mag? or a 30-06?

all the guys that I refer to as "the heavy bullet mafia" are on record here on AR as saying (and generally saying it ultiple times)
that 100fps doesn't make a difference so why not go with a 30-06 that tosses 180s about 100fps slower than a 7mmMag throws 175's?

alternatly why MUST the base of the bullet not sit below the neck shoulder junction?

loads that actually fill ALL the "powder space" in the 7mmMag are a narrow selection.

And if the bullet doesn't reach atleast the shoulder neck junction then you have less than
1caliber of seating depth...

Or is it you are trying to join the geezer set with their secondary mantra of: "do as I say not as I do"?

Or are you suffering from CRS and are applying arbitrary restriction on the parameters of your loads in choosing specific seating depths as "bad" even though the bullet and propellant charge fit?

I'm trying to understand your logic, I reserve the right to not agree with that logic once stated, but please spell it out so I can understand why you are objecting to those "problems"


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