I know some people are sticklers for "tradition" or just plain love wood/blue, or they live in a place that these types of riles are fine.

I'm not a traditionalist, I hunt animals in winter where its wet and freezing I don't like waxing and extra maintenance. So, I like laminates, synthetics, stainless steal, cerakotes, etc.

I know there some all weather 9.3's around here, let's see some pics! I'm trying to decide how I go forward with my next build, which will be on a SS M70 classic action.

Buy a stainless M70 or 700 BDL in 375 H&H and load it a bit down(300gr at 2300fps, or 250/270gr at 2500fps)
I put a HighTec stock on my stainless 700 BDL in 375, and hunted moose in rain&snow. Works fine

Metric

I already own the M70, I'm not really looking to buy any more rifles. Time to get projects finished! Too many are in various stages. 9.3 is what I have decided to do.

Look for a Tikka T3lite or a Sako Stainless in 9,3x62!

Already have the M70, I'm not looking for suggestions for a new rifle.

I'm hoping to see some pics of other peoples guns, that are all weather, and chambered for the 9.3

Check out the "It shoots too 9.3x62" thread in Custom Rifles here in AR Several nice ones done on m70 actions

SSR

excellent!

Monastery-Forester, I'd love to buy a Tikka in 9.3x62, but they aren't available in the U.S. in that chambering.

I have an all weather pre-64 M70 but it is in .338 WM. Has a Kreiger cut rifled bbl with NECG irons and Leupold QR mounts. A McMillan stock is fit to the action and nicely bedded.

The metal has been Gun-Kote'd. Has withstood some genuinely lousy weather.

A very nice way to be able to build a practical rifle.

My practical 9,3x62 was constructed at a much less wealthy time. Is a VZ.24 action with a Douglas 24" barrel, no irons, and custom bases to fit Leupold QRW rings. Has an FN left side low flag safety and a Dakota bolt handle.

Is bedded into a cheap but useful Fajen's synthetic stock.

Metal has been Gun-Kote'd.

Must admit that the pre64 M70 is so nice that I tend to use the 9,3x62 when the weather is just awful. Would hate to fall and damage the McMillan stock

When the weather in inclement, I hate to take out my 9,3x74R double rifle and take my "foul weather rifle" instead, a R93 OffRoad in 9,3x62. It's Mag-Na-Ported and scoped with a Swaro PV-2 1 1,25-4x34 scope with illuminated reticle. A very efficient driven game rifle (all running shots ) which has accounted for many Wild boars.

Hi André,

Can one still get the Bar-dot reticle in Belgium ?

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Originally posted by bobby van der Putten:
Hi André,

Can one still get the Bar-dot reticle in Belgium ?

sure You get it - at least in Germany:

http://www.titanium-gunworks.d.../z6i/z6i-1-6x24.html


why not...?!?!

Went for a Kevlar stock on mine - My only problem with SS is how it catches the light compared to matt blued...If I could have a military style 'parkerised' finish I would have chosed a SS action and Barrel as well

Thanks Scubapro,

But the bar-dot is the former reticle N° 2.

A heavy vertical post with a hair horizontal line.

Swarovski made it specially for the Belgian market, where most of the big game is shot running.

As far as I know only Kahles still makes it, they call it P-Dot.

I recommend Sauer S202 fantastic rifle and very versatile. You can change stock in one minute and calibre in few minutes. I have 2 stocks, one nice walnut and one synthetic if I anticipate bad weather. Two barrels, 9.3x62 and 30-06 and two scopes a 1.5-6 and a 4.5-14. Two magazines, one for 3 rounds and one for 5 rounds. All metal parts have special coating for optimum rust prevention.

How close is your return to zero when you swap them out?

Very close....just one or two clicks and you’re ready to go !

Ingvar,

That is a lovely rifle! I really like the 202, but it is very far out of my budget! A 9.3x62 and 25-06 barrel would be my choice!

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Originally posted by Don Heath:
Went for a Kevlar stock on mine - My only problem with SS is how it catches the light compared to matt blued...If I could have a military style 'parkerised' finish I would have chosed a SS action and Barrel as well

Don,
This is my line of thinking, a non-glare finish on the SS, maybe like the Ruger flat gray type. Good in wet weather, but still very "stealth"

quote:

Originally posted by bobby van der Putten:
Thanks Scubapro,

But the bar-dot is the former reticle N° 2.

A heavy vertical post with a hair horizontal line.

Swarovski made it specially for the Belgian market, where most of the big game is shot running.

As far as I know only Kahles still makes it, they call it P-Dot.

sorry, did not know that there was another reticle - I thought You mean the LD-I reticle as it has a line and a dot...

But I suggest the CD-I reticle as the best for hunting on driven hunts / or on dangerous game to be the best choice...

Klaus

I have two all-weather 9.3s.

1) M70 Classic stainless that wears a McMillan stock and Leupold VXIII 1.5-5.

2) Sako AV Fiberclass that's been Duracoated. It wears a VXII 2-7.

Dr Lou

Do you have any pics of that M70? Sounds about what I'm planning to do except I might go with a HS stock vs McMillan.

quote:

Originally posted by bobby van der Putten:
Hi André,

Can one still get the Bar-dot reticle in Belgium ?

Hi Bobby, sorry for my late answering. I was deeply involved in some season's "outdoor study" . Bar-dot reticles were common on ancient German "battue" scopes but I don't remember seeing one for years. Illuminated reticles have pushed them into oblivion. BTW, the special "Belgian" reticle was the circle-dot which a Belgian stockmaker acquaintance of mine, Pascal Collard, developed. He convinced Swarovski to produce it in small quantity for the Belgian market (90 % drive hunting, as in France) and it was so well received and promoted in the field, incl. by yours truly, that it became standard offering in short order.


I like it a lot as it has proved deadly on running shots (my choice as a close second is an illuminated Nr. 4).

Anecdotically, when the circle-dot was introduced in the U.S., I read somewhere that it was specially designed for hunting wild turkeys as, when mounted on a shotgun and aimed at the bird's head, the outer circle was exactly covering the shot pattern -shot size, choke and range notwithstanding, go figure ?!?!
More seriously, the circle-dot came to life by trying out all combinations of reticles until we found out that superimposing them all (outer and inner circle + heavy & light bars + central dot) was the fastest as everybody found his liking, and often quite differently. Indeed, field debriefing showed that some picked up the dot, others the bold or thin bars, circles, etc.

Proof of the pudding...

Look for a vintage Husky 9.3 made on an FN commercial action. Wood & blue but less than the price of those listed above and a genuine classic Mauser that will only appreciate in value.

Thanks André,

I think I'll go for the Kahles this time.

Bobby

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Originally posted by MileHighShooter:
I know some people are sticklers for "tradition" or just plain love wood/blue, or they live in a place that these types of riles are fine.

I'm not a traditionalist, I hunt animals in winter where its wet and freezing I don't like waxing and extra maintenance. So, I like laminates, synthetics, stainless steal, cerakotes, etc.

I know there some all weather 9.3's around here, let's see some pics! I'm trying to decide how I go forward with my next build, which will be on a SS M70 classic action.

I would look at that blued sightless CZ550 'American' 9,3x62 with kevlar reinforced synthetic stock. It's affordable rifle with good handling characteristics. Addition of silicone impregnated towel or oil wipes would complete that nasty weather outfit nicely.

The reticle in the 1.5-5x Leupold IR 30 mm tube scope is very similar.

I find it great for close fast shots ... such as Cape Buffalo with a .416 Rigby at 30 yards. Do not like it much for hunting piggies from a blind at ranges of 100 to 200 yards.

My all weather 9.3 is a p17 enfield that was rebarreled to 9.3x62. It holds 6 down, has a 23" barrel with original dog ear sights and a scout scope. The stock is a synthetic B&C carbelite and the entire rifle has been hard chromed. I shoot mostly 286gr Partitions at 2450fps. Used it to take a moose 3 years ago at 280 yards. Worked like a charm, but a dad on the heavy side to carry around too much.

tbear, that is a heck of a rifle...don't need to carry extra ammo as 6 is plenty,,,the finish is fantastic for weather, seems really ideal. Mine is park'd,Lothar bbl. 24", VZ24, Chapman 2 pos. safety, Timney Trigg, NECG front w/Lyman 48 rear. Nice and light in a Hogue rubbery job, points quickly and balances well and easy to carry...works really swell for moose and grizz.

This is what you want.

-Pre 64 M70 action with factory bottom metal
-24" #3 Pacnor SS barrel, 1:12 twist (brand is up to you)
-D'Arcy Echols Legend stock, Edge fill (mine has the two SS recoil cross pins)
-Factory trigger (Rifle Basix makes a great modern trigger)
-Leupold VX3 1.75-6x32mm
-Leupold QR rings and low bases (low bases will barely clear the objective housing slightly wearing on both the scope and bolt handle necessitating Leupold Alumina scope cover. Butler Creeks and any other scope covers will NOT work)
-Pacmyer Decelerator pad
-Cerakote all metal in "Midnight Purple" (gives a dull blued finish)
-OD Green paint on stock
-Pillar and glass bedded
-SS swivel studs (also Cerakoted)
-8 lb 3.3 oz they way you see it.

Redneck, over on the 24HCF did the metal work and initial inletting.

Charley Santoni, CS Sports, did the stock and metal finish and bedding. http://riflestockpainting.com/


Alan


Oh, and it shoots too!

250 Accubond


286 Partition

Alan, nice rig! I might have to Duracoat the Micky on my M70 9.3x62 OD green.

Lou