I have found old mauser model forest, made by the german firm Frankonia. They are intermediate mausers without tumbcut. Does anybody know who made these actios/rifles? http://www.egun.de/market/item...2021[/IMG][IMG:left] Thank you in advance for your suggestions
Those sold in Rod and Gun clubs in Germany beginning in the early 60s. I was under the impression they were surplus german mauser actions from WWll and that the rifles were put together by Waffen Frankonia. Probably one of our German forum members can tell you more . They sold for 49 U.S. dollars in 1963. Iwas custodian of the Giessen club at that time and we sold a lot of them.
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Cowboy: I've been amazed for years at the number of Sakos your club apparently sold. Do you have any idea how many and over what span of years? Were there other outlets in Europe from which GI's purchased Sakos in any significant numbers?
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Intermediate length commercial actions believed to have been made by Zastava in the early 1960's. Besides Frankonia, they were supplied to Heym for the 720 and 724 Westernfield imports.
Stonecrrek, I was custodian from late 1962- early 1966. We sold a bunch of Sakos. They were well made and cheap. I was only one location. The larger clubs in Heidelberg and Weisbaden sold many mroe. Of course guys on flight pay had more to spend. A german Weatherby was 150 and a Browning superposed was 200. The delux Sako went for 120. I believe the standard was 80. One E-5 from a signal unit bought one every momnth until he had all the calibers. I suspect he was doing the $5 for 4 thing to get momey but who knows. I should have bought some too.
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I have a friend who is a really prolific hunter in the forest of west africa, he has shot everything from Elephant to Duiker with 12 guage and an occasionally borowed .404 Jeffery.I have found him a 12ga german drilling with 8x57 rifle.How can i find data on reloading this cartridge.If WDM Bell could deal with Elephants with 7x57 mauser, this guy will feel very comfortable with 8mm 250grain round nose soft points bullets at 2400 fps, going after 800lb forest buffalo.Any suggestions for powder and handloads?Thank you.This is a real forest gun/rifle for west africa.
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Originally posted by babaode: I have a friend who is a really prolific hunter in the forest of west africa, he has shot everything from Elephant to Duiker with 12 guage and an occasionally borowed .404 Jeffery.I have found him a 12ga german drilling with 8x57 rifle.How can i find data on reloading this cartridge.If WDM Bell could deal with Elephants with 7x57 mauser, this guy will feel very comfortable with 8mm 250grain round nose soft points bullets at 2400 fps, going after 800lb forest buffalo.Any suggestions for powder and handloads?Thank you.This is a real forest gun/rifle for west africa.
babaode,
Post your question in the reloading forum and I am sure you'll get some answers.
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Heym would have made them standard length, instead of having to open up the front of the mag box with a hacksaw
Also, only the barrels on such rifles were marked by Heym, nothing on the actions.
Zastava was the only ones making intermediate Mauser actions at this time, for the Model 48. It is believed that they made some commercial actions on this pattern, before starting the standard length ones used for the Interarms contracts.
I don't believe Heym ever made a 98 pattern action (until recently). Their early post-war rifles were all made on German surplus or FN style actions, which I believe were obtained from Zastava.
Heym's first in-house action was the SR-10, which was a push feed. I believe Mauser sold them as the Model 2000.
Zastava did make intermediate actions because I just sold one yesterday. Actually, I sold the action years ago but still had the bolt which I fitted to a 24/47. I sold that 24/47 and shipped it yesterday. It had the typical Zastava markings on it and of course, it was of intermediate length.
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Stonecreek asked about Sako sales in Rod and Gun Clubs, the clubs at RAF Alconbury and Lakenheath, England sold a lot of them. I'm sure the other UK bases did the same. I bought two at Alconbury.
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