Has anyone out there been able to obtain and load
up some of the new Speer Deep Shok bullets in 7mm
160 grain yet? They were supposed to be out by
mid June of this year and all dealers I have contacted say they are on the way. This looks like
a premium bullet at standard prices but Speer has
been dragging their feet on this for some reason.
If anybody knows where I can get some of these I
would appreciate the info! Thanks...BLR7

your a bit behind on the times perhaps, I think they have droped it from production in some calibers, perhaps all and have gone to premiums...It was a good conventional bullet..I used them and liked them...

Ray,

The Speer Deep-Shoks are back in production. Admittedly, they have been somewhat of a "mystery" bullet the last couple of years as far as availability. I purchased 5 boxes of 165gr .308" Deep-Shoks not too long ago. So far I've seen 165gr and 180gr .30 caliber in some stores locally and online. Speer probably started their production runs with those weights. (i.e. Popular weight and caliber.)

Here's a message thread about it:
http://www.nookhill.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=004354#000033
also
http://www.nookhill.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=007703#000005

I think the Deep-Shoks got caught up in the purchase of Speer by ATK. Production was probably suspended until ATK sorted out the product line, etc. after acquiring the business. Anyway, the Deep-Shoks appear to be back. My 5 boxes of Deep-Shoks have the ATK logo on them. That would indicate that they were produced after the purchase of Speer by ATK.

BTW: Here's the ballistic coefficients for the .30 caliber Deep-Shoks:

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Subject: RE: speer-bullets.com - Ask the Expert Form
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 09:13:20 -0500
From: "Neill, Guy" <Guy.Neill@ATK.com>

The BC for the 165gr 0.308" Deep Shok is 0.443. For the 180gr it is 0.508.

Guy Neill
CCI-Speer Technical Services
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-Bob F.

[ 07-28-2003, 18:46: Message edited by: BFaucett ]

Thanks for the replies. I am calling Speer rep
in the morning to see if I can get to the bottom of this. I have some hunts coming up in a couple of months and I want time to work up a load. If
production has been halted, the dealers don't seem
to know about it. Speer has a brand new webb site
and on it they list the Deep-shoks as if it is
available. If I get some new info I'll post it on
here tomorrow! BLR7.

A month ago Speer Deep Shocks were on the shelf at our local gun shot. Stopped by yesterday and they were all gone...

They have them listed in the latest Graf & Sons catalog.

www.grafs.com

As of today (7/28/2003) MidwayUSA is showing this about availability:

Speer Deep-Shok Bullets 7mm (.284 Diameter) 160 Grain Box of 50
Product #: 715897
Manufacturer #: 1710
Our Price: $15.06
Status: Out of Stock, No Backorder
Date Expected In-Stock: 9/1/2003

Hmmmmmmm? I just checked "Graf's" they're out of stock right now too!

Well, I have may spoken too soon.

quote:

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BLR7 (Texas Cactus Shooter)
Member # 10723
posted 07-28-2003 22:24
The Speer Deep Shok line of bullets has been
discontinued according to Guy Neil technical
rep for Speer. What a shame to drop such a
promising bullet line. Sorry but that is the
bottom line. BLR7

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From http://www.nookhill.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=008912
on the Reloading forum.

Oh well. So it goes...
-Bob F.

I hope they don't discontinue them, they were a great bullet when Federal was using them..I really liked them on deer size game...and I suspect they worked on larger stuff..

I was at the Carter Country Store on the Katy Freeway today and they had five boxes of .30 caliber on hand. I don't remember if they were 165 or 180 grain though. Who knows they may have more in the back or some at the other three stores. Give them a call if you are interested.

Lets us know if they have any 7mm 160gr.

I didn't see any in 7mm. Only 5 boxes in .30 caliber. No other calibers.

This sucks! Its true, here is their reply to my E-mail;

My understanding is that the Deep Shoks will not be offered in 2004. Sorry.

Guy Neill
CCI-Speer Technical Services

Maybe if all of us that shoot a 7mm send them an e-mail saying we want to buy a couple hundred rounds a piece they might bring them out.